German Shepherd Dog > Two male or females together (22 replies)

Two male or females together
by myret on 09 April 2012 - 21:15
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I was reading the other post about males fighting I myself have a female and a 7 month old pup When I bought my female I did not want to take a chance that my 6 year old male would not approve of another male in the house , but my personel I like males much better than females so I wonder When my female is not here anymore in some years could it not work out having two males intact Living together???? Or is it out of the question I know much depends ón my pup when hé is an adult but I live In a appartment and dont have kennels Does any here have severel males together or are they All seperated
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by macrowe1 on 09 April 2012 - 21:32
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In my personal opinion, a male/female combination is best.
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by aceofspades on 09 April 2012 - 21:39
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I have had two intact males together and had no issues, however we had just the two dogs at the time and we live on 5 acres so they had a ton of room to not be all up in each other's space.  In an apartment I probably wouldn't do it just because the quarters are too close and you are left with just a huge question mark.  You may never have problems, but you probably will at least once.  My girls went at each other once.  Both at the end of being in season and I think it was the younger one asserting her dominance.  We knew that the day that happened was going to come.  Janna is the youngest of my dogs and Ariel is the oldest.  Janna had been showing signs of being dominant so we had been keeping a very close eye on them and not letting them together unless fully supervised and sure enough one day my husband and I were standing in the living room annd Janna was beside me ad Ariel came in the front door and bumped Janna and J went off on her.  We were lucky to intervene with a verbal command which startled them and then a firm negative correction and we have never had another issue, but both Ariel (4 years old) and Ace (2 years old) respect that Janna (2 years old) is the Alpha dog.  We were almost certain just based on Janna's personality when she was 9 weeks old, that she would be the alpha.  They do occasionally get left together but never when either one is in season and Ariel pretty much just steers pretty clear of Janna for the most part when in the house, but they will play togeter outside.  Neither has even so much as growled at the other since the one incident.
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by Beardog on 09 April 2012 - 22:17
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I like females living together much better than intact males. Someone male is always trying to play the "tough guy" when females are in any state of esterus.
I do have an Alpha female that rules the roost with just a look at the other females, she even puts young and immature adult males in their place and can duke it out with them if they so choose. The females have done battle but not male-battle in knock-down drag-outs.
One female and one male was the best combo that I ever had.
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by GSDguy08 on 09 April 2012 - 22:39
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Beardog, not sure that's "typical" liking females living together lol. Most seem to think the exact opposite.  I right now have four intact males living together with no issues.  Keep in mind that one of them is a young pup, but the others are not.  I do have one female as well who is with them.   I personally teach the puppies, that if they are annoying the older dog......to "leave them" .....This way the adult dogs don't get annoyed at the pup. It's worked with bringing up my other dogs (if a pup started annoying the adult, and the adult growled....."leave them"....and then the pup learns it's not acceptable, and the adult doesn't feel the need to growl or act out towards the pup), and it seems to be going well so far with this pup too.  With that said...if my adults play with the pup.......that's great, they play, have fun, and they aren't getting annoyed because they started the playing.
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by yellowrose of Texas on 09 April 2012 - 22:46
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Myret:   I went to IE to post now and have a dashboard.....lol

DO not even consider it as most experienced people deal with it and have to keep tight reigns on our dogs.

SO unless you are a trainer, or have mentors to teach you how to , it still will not work at certain time in all females or males lives...but you have to be trained to know when that is.

Mating times, maturing males, get Testosteone, females have heat cycles,   food fights , jealousy,   family changes,,,the list goes on and on...

DO NOT TRY IT... GET A MALE AND A FEMALE FOR YOUR pair>

LARGE  WIRE crates fit on patios of apartments just like they do in a home....so if you have even a female , males pair, at sometime you still have to seperate them for prevention of puppies and they need crates for proper training anyway...

Here is a picture of my males and females together when Dieter came to live..He is the puppy but he matured two yrs later and would have killed any male on property..HE is major alpha , well trained but you cannot take the male out of the MALE>>.

I am not gonna ride herd on my dogs..I run a male /female and no need to do other wise..

All get time with me , training, eating and I have plenty of Kennel runs on 3 acres...

DOG fights are not fun. Below is ZU, lower left then top Thor, Yap , Dieter the pup, and BOZO...one female and 4 males...this was before any of them had been bred. Thor , Yap and BOZO never were bred...DIETER grew up and said This is my show!!  AUSTIN, BEAR JEROME  were never put in this position..They all were bred males..so never even thought of working them together...

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by HighDesertGSD on 09 April 2012 - 22:57
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My mom and daugther brace are getting along well.

I will keep another girl from the next litter by the daughter, hopefully three generations of females will get along, but I am prepared to separate them if necessary. This is why I have dog runs.
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by ziegenfarm on 09 April 2012 - 23:53
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my vote is cast for male & spayed female.
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by Gershep2 on 10 April 2012 - 01:22
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The worst fight is the female/female fight. I would not have 2 intact anything in an apartment. JMO
 

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by ggturner on 10 April 2012 - 02:34
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I have one intact male and two spayed females and they get along great.  I agree that 2 or more intact of the same sex is asking for trouble.
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by aaykay on 10 April 2012 - 04:19
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From past experience, female/female is the worst combo.  Male/male will work for the most part.  Male/female works the best. 

Female/female will kill each other, if not tightly supervised.


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by Gusmanda on 10 April 2012 - 04:42
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are mother/daughter less of an issue if keeping female/female?
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by yellowrose of Texas on 10 April 2012 - 05:29
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THat mother some day will not care that is her daughter..she is not human..We reason, dogs do not when she comes in heat again or has harmone raises , she can turn on the daughter, just as the daughter when she matures and comes into heat...all games of Jealousy and ALPHA behaviour can come to the surface. SO many people leave their dogs unattended when they get to 2 yrs old..and come home to find one dead.. Females do not know that is a daughter when they both mature into LADY hood.. Males do not know son or dad status when the MAle TESTOSTERONE GOES APE. yr
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by myret on 10 April 2012 - 13:07
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Thanks for your anwers you all Thats what I thought as well that it would not be a good idea that is why I got a female the first time to avoid truble later ón with my adult male because hé did not like all males and could be very dominant . So I guess that when times is and If I still live in a appartement I will buy a female again because the pup I have now will be an adult male at the time so I must dream ón for a while about having two males until I have kennels one day. Yes I have a crate for one of the dogs now so when the pups alone hé is In the crate and they come out alone sometimes along the day
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by myret on 10 April 2012 - 13:09
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Yellowrose Hé hé hé dont you think they know their sons or daughter I think so Does it matter maybe not
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by Gusmanda on 10 April 2012 - 13:57
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is the issue of male-male or female-female accentuated more with certain breeds? I have known friends to keep this combinations without issues, however involving breeds which I believe are generally less agresive.
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by GSDguy08 on 10 April 2012 - 14:22
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YR I doubt any male puppy knows who his dad is, or the sire knows that they're actually his sons.  

Gusmanda, Some breeds, like in my case Huskies, are more pack oriented than most, but does that make it easier? I think it partially has to do with the individual dog and his/her temperament. Obviously two dominant dogs, or more "alpha" type if you want to call them that are going to have a harder time existing together. A group of passive.....submissive dogs, probably aren't going to have much of an issue being around each other. Every breed has dogs who are crazy hyper, or more docile....just as every breed has dogs that are very dominant, or some that are more passive or whatever else.  And of course, with age/maturity things can change, I think it just depends more so on the individual dog.
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by myret on 10 April 2012 - 14:56
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But I have a friend that has a male malinois and an older female other breed and she is a terror she is nagging the other dogs All the time holding them at their place The male completely changed when she was put down because of old age hé became much more free and not so much tension and showed his drive and playfullness much more so dogs of female and male can also have tension between them
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by Gusmanda on 10 April 2012 - 17:50
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guess it comes down to how dominant they are, regardless of sex. There is a female husky at our schh club that won't take crap from anyone, male or female, if they don't act submissive a scrap will take place.
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by 3Shep2 on 10 April 2012 - 17:52
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Until I lost my old guy in January, I had two males and four females-granted they were/are crated whenever I am not home but otherwise run together-I introduced the second male as a ten week old pup when my old male was seven and never had a problem.  My two coated girls are full sisters but from different litters and there has never been an issue-I do have to watch my five and two year old females-they are just too much alike-but usually a verbal warning is all that it takes to make them behave--now I have a 16 week old female Shep/lab mix rescue with a personality to make life interesting as she matures, but she does listen to corrections. 
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