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Starting a training program
by newage on 21 February 2008 - 19:42
When starting a spacific training program: who is it that you would like to impress first and formost?
1) The students
2) The Master trainers
3) The family memebers
How would you approach the individual or prspective students?
Just can't figure some people out they want to become dog trainers but do not wish to pay for your time! Why is it everyone wants a free bee in life?????
by Don Corleone on 21 February 2008 - 20:13
I would treat them like crap. Tell them how little they know and explain how you are a "master" trainer. Tell them how lucky they are to have met you.
you can tell them to come here and recieve the same FREE advice you are seeking.
by newage on 22 February 2008 - 16:43
But I would never treat anyone like crap, that is not the way to proceed in any type of business! I just asked a simple question about what type of people to attract! Some people just like the fun of being in an ob class others like to do pet agility and then you have the individuals that wish to go further! But many of these individuals do not wish to pay for any services. So I just asked which is the best form of approach!
by Don Corleone on 22 February 2008 - 17:10
sorry, But i still don't get your question.
by newage on 22 February 2008 - 17:30
Okay, let try this again! There are many individuals that wish to train in sch, then of course those that wish to become a k-9 security handler or Police Service handler! Now we all know there are individuals out there that train in the areas of pet and pets alone!
So if you have a program set forth, that offers these areas K-9 handler trainer and k-9 security handler how do you assess who is good and qualified? And how to secure their interests in this type of work? The last thing is getting people to start a program take half the course then walk away thinking that they are dog trainers and begin their own business before they even had completed the training!
Years ago I worked for a security service and the guards were all certified in an hour! yeah and we all know that can not and should not happen!
Then you have people that want to take a course but do not want to pay.
by Don Corleone on 22 February 2008 - 17:38
I'm sorry again. I still don't get what you are asking. Your students leave halfway through your schooling? How do you assess who is good and qualified for what? To train? To teach?
You are the one there. How is someone outside of your business going to answer why your students are leaving. I don't mean any disrespect, but if you don't know these questions, perhaps you are in the wrong business. Perhaps you skipped out on your training because you thought you were ready to take on the world.
by AgarPhranicniStraze1 on 22 February 2008 - 18:46
If this is YOUR business, your livlihood then with all due respect you SHOULD know how to determine if the potential employees/trainers you're hiring are qualified. It sounds like you are wanting to spread yourself thin with everything you want to offer. I understand variety is what you're getting at so you get more clients but each venue you described you're offering requires a certain type of trainer. A "pet trainer" is not gonna know how to train in SCH and certainly will not be able to train a k9 handler or security officer.
If I'm understanding your question correctly then my advise would be to break out your program into seperated areas and have a specific trainer for each one, assuming your classes will be filled enough for it to be worth hiring the extra help.
If people are leaving then there is a reason and you need to find out why. Politely ask them if they care to share why the decided to train elsewhere and explain that in order for you to offer better service it's important that you know when your clients are displeased so that you can correct it. If they are leaving because you are not willing to offer "free" training then LET THEM GO! Simple as that. If this is your business then treat it as such. You can't pay your bills offering free training. Now if it's advice they are seeking and you are trying to cash in on that; then that is bad. It's your job to teach and the only way they will learn is if they understand what you are teaching and why you are telling them to do things a certain way.
Personally I'd focus more on the pet folks. SCH people will go to a club or train with someone who has built a name for themselves, has titled dogs, competed ect. K9 handlers are gonna either go with whoever their department directs them to train with or they will seek out other LEO's that are training with someone experienced in that arena. I'm not saying it's not possible to provide services for all the above; just saying you have to crawl before you walk. Good Luck
by newage on 22 February 2008 - 19:19
Hi I have not started a training program as yet! I have individual trainers ready to go; These trainers all specialize in what they are good at; With this area secured we can begin focusing on the students! We have even put in place a funding instatution and all! The problem is the potential students all want us to train them and pay them for the training! Generally you take a course get trained do the great thing and become certified! But the people I guess I would have to say this!
I want a dog but I do not have the money so would you give it too me!
by AgarPhranicniStraze1 on 22 February 2008 - 20:10
I'm missing something here. Are you training dog owners and their dogs or are you training employees and certifying them?
If you are hiring employees with no experience, little or no certifications and you are willing to offer them on the job training then yes you should be paying them as they are learning; you're the employer. If you don't want to pay people to get certified then hire one's already experienced with everything you require.
If you're speaking of "students" as in owners and their dogs who expect you to train them and pay them then that's ridiculous and doesn't make sense to me. I'm assuming you are speaking of "students" as in potential trainers/employees. If they went to a school and took a course to get certified they'd be the one's paying right? No dog training school is gonna say "Come one and all, take our course so we can certify you and teach you how to train dogs and make money, all for free" or better yet "we'll even pay you while you take our course".
Sounds like you need a more committed and serious group to deal with.
by newage on 22 February 2008 - 20:17
My instructors are certified its the students that want to get the training for free! This is just to nuts if you ask me! I had to pay for all and anything I did! No one gave it too me for free but the kids of today gee's they need to get a grip! A big one!
It seems as though its the area we live in for some reason no one here has a decent head on their shoulders. One guy turned around and started a dog training center here and I asked him what his qualifications were? He said my first dog trained me! I looked at this guy as though he had crackers loose in his brain! But of course he lasted a month and had to close up shop! Yeah no one around here wants to get cerified and or look into proper training not around here!
by zdog on 22 February 2008 - 22:10
seems easy, you find out who is serious by the ones that will pay for your services. If they pay, they will stay, assuming your training is any good. If they pay and realize it is a waste of time, they will leave. If all they are looking for is a free ride, well then they probably aren't committed anyway, and probably won't be starting any business venture in competition to you.
If they do start one, they'll probably bail as soon as they realize how much it costs, and how much work is involved. If you trainers are what you say they are, then either you aren't marketing to the right people or your program is structured in such a way that prohibits the target consumer to buy it.