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ForumsGerman Shepherd Dog > News Update of WHAT HAPPENED TO Athos vom haus Sevens and Vinetta von Karthago. Are they alive? (342 replies)
by Bhall on 09 August 2011 - 02:10 |
| Veronica, I am so happy for you. I was crying when I read the whole story. Vicky, I know you are reading this. I will come and pick Sam up, I will not ask any questions or I can have him shipped. Just please let him go...... There is no need for him or the puppies to suffer. Let the puppies go as they need medical attention. |
Bhall by gucci on 09 August 2011 - 02:16 |
| It has been really easy to check Vickie out for at least 6 years, I am so very glad the dogs that are home, made it home, really hope the pup survives, Hope Sam can get home also...I really should not say more. Lida |
by VomMarischal on 09 August 2011 - 02:51 |
| It's super easy to check Vick-ey out but ONLY if you go online. There are still holdouts. Also those people who were online but still got conned? Guess what? WE ALL got conned by Vickie. Remember Heidi last winter? And we all contributed to her vet bill? Well guess what? CON! and we are all online and should know better. Until you have listened to that...(choose the expletive of your choice)...spin one of her yarns, don't judge the people who bought her lies. |
by Donnerstorm on 09 August 2011 - 02:53 |
Being fairly new I missed the whole 'Vicky" thing as it was happening, and all I know is what I have read on this thread and all I can say is what is wrong with people?? I'm glad it appears that it ended well for some of the dogs, but what is the reasoning in not returning Sam? Am I correct in the assumption that Hessel was poisoned while in Vicky's care? It is a lot to catch up on and to think it's just one woman! Wow I'm gonna ask a question PLEASE do not get offended or think that I am insuinuating anything at all. How did she come to get all these dogs? I know people are not always what they market themselves to be, so I am in no way saying anybody should have known better. I was just wondering what she was supposed to be doing with the dogs, or did she buy them and just stop paying on them? As far as con artists go she seems to be in a class all of her own. Makes you wonder how in the world she could possibly look herself in the mirror. And why is she refusing to return sam? I'm really sorry Brigit, I don't know you, but I can't imagine what you must be going through. |
Donnerstorm by VomMarischal on 09 August 2011 - 03:15 |
| Sigh. She got those dogs for a variety of reasons, such as people thinking she would be a good retirement placement, and previous owners having health issues. Vickie had no problem coughing up lots of money for them because it wasn't her money LOL LOL LOL. And BOY can vickie spin a yarn. Trust me, the dogs' previous owners thought their dogs were going to dog heaven. This reminds me. I think a lot of people owe a lot of apologies to Julie Sue at tattoo-a-pet. Vickie said she was a senile old bat and everybody seems to have believed her. Julie Sue got BANNED here. That was just WRONG. Now I'll get banned for questioning a mod decision LOL. Oh well. |
by von sprengkraft on 09 August 2011 - 03:18 |
| Veronica...I am so happy your dogs are home safelyl Just to let you know...Fenja and Zuma are happy and healthy. I see them often. I am so happy Scott helped you...I have known him for quite a while. Thank you to all the folks who helped in this endeavor.....I am sure the dogs are releaved to be back home. |
von sprengkraft by Ruger1 on 09 August 2011 - 03:20 |
| Donnerstorm.said, ...".How did she come to get all these dogs? I know people are not always what they market themselves to be, so I am in no way saying anybody should have known better. I was just wondering what she was supposed to be doing with the dogs, or did she buy them and just stop paying on them? Don't feel badly about asking that question because it has confused me too. I have been on the site about a year and have often wondered myself how Vicki got access to these dogs too...I hope someone will answer the question so we can better understand the situation.... Deanna.... |
Ruger1 by VomMarischal on 09 August 2011 - 03:26 |
| Well, remember, Ruger1, Vickie has had those dogs for longer than a year. She got Athos and Vinetta early last summer. Not everybody knew yet what a skank she is. |
by Ruger1 on 09 August 2011 - 03:32 |
by Jenni78 on 09 August 2011 - 03:33 |
| I used to feel guilty for thinking I would never sell her a dog because she struck me as just your garden variety white trash. I really did feel bad for being so judgmental and I even thought I might be missing out on some good homes for dogs by being such a nazi about where they go if I have to sell one. I do a ridiculous background check on people...and then go by gut feeling. That woman has never once given me a good feeling; at first I thought she was just plain crass and classless, then I thought she was a blatant liar...but never did I think she was capable of this, so I don't necessarily blame those who were duped by her. Not everyone is as hateful and suspicious as I am, lmao. |
Jenni78 by Ruger1 on 09 August 2011 - 03:36 |
VM...I just realized you answeres my question already...I overlooked it...WE posted at the same time..: ) |
by VomMarischal on 09 August 2011 - 03:39 |
| She wanted to give world class retired dogs a place to live, in theory. I wonder how many hundreds of straws she has...LOL. Oh let's face it, she's just a slightly younger Janice Bartmess. And "garden variety white trash" is a fairly perfect description of her. |
by yellowrose of Texas on 09 August 2011 - 03:41 | ||||||
RUger1: These two women are not the ONLY TWO WOMEN that have gotten screwed and TATOOED by VICKIE. YES< many people in Kansas and OKLAHOMA knew.. We have another Breeder here on base who posted for weeks a thread asking VIcike to come forth with fact and honor from lies about her male, who was supposidly at vicki's for training... Only to find out , that VICKIE has never trained anything in her life..She cons it to someone else and then lies ...THIS person spent money to get that male to NAtionals.. VICKIE didn't even get off her ARSE and show up , after entering this male into events. She was there on the premises, but top officials verified she never made the attempt to get Darko to his venue. DARKO was the dog I am speaking of...SO long ago , this has been her MO> BUT Darko's story got deleted and removed and VICKIE got her plug in and manuevered and conned and lied her way thru every person reading this right now ,plus others who just got tired of trying to get the truth out. SO WE ARE NOW HERE trying to figure out HOW WE GOT HERE! YR
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yellowrose of Texas by VomMarischal on 09 August 2011 - 03:46 |
| OK I'm sticking my neck out here, but from the DOGS' perspective, it's pretty bad that the threads slamming Vickie were removed. It'd be better if people could read those things and decide for themselves who they were going to believe. EVEN SO, Vickie is such an accomplished liar that she generally talks her way out of trouble. Remember that litter of flatcoat mutts she tried to sell as black gsds? LOL She had a female at her place to be bred and it had four flop-eared black curly-coated mutts? And came out screaming that everyone was against her? Well, yeah. LOL |
by StrayPixels on 09 August 2011 - 03:50 |
| I'd like to answer this....... This reminds me. I think a lot of people owe a lot of apologies to Julie Sue at tattoo-a-pet. Vickie said she was a senile old bat and everybody seems to have believed her. Julie Sue got BANNED here. That was just WRONG. The reason she was banned was because she took her fight with Vickie to the Classified Ads!!!! Really? The Classifieds? They were both going back and forth! And neither would stop! Sorry but we are not playing that game! There are right ways to get your story out and that was not the way. How you fight back is important too. Straight facts with the least amount of drama and emotion (like both Veronica and Bhall have done) will be more believable than someone flying off the handle! Now once more so it's clear, They would not stop fighting and then proceeded to fight in the classifieds! You will be banned for that no questions asked. |
StrayPixels by VomMarischal on 09 August 2011 - 03:51 |
| LOL I never go to the classifieds. That's just BAD, I agree! So OK, I will be banned. Bye. *Added by StrayPixels Please stop with this ban stuff! No one said anything about you being banned! |
by SchH trainer on 09 August 2011 - 04:11 |
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by VomMarischal on 09 August 2011 - 04:34 |
| Oh, I just can't resist shaking your penny can once in awhile. I know I'm probably going to hell. :) |
by hunger4justice on 09 August 2011 - 05:38 |
| Great news. I was able to trace another dog Vickie had her hands on that she complained was attacking her and had a lot of handler aggression (smart dog). Was afraid of what she would do to him. He is fine and living in the Domincan Republic but what about Indy ze Stribrneho Kamene????? That is the dog with the awesome pedigree that was in the Taos Spirit Kennels in the tiny cage, looking broken and dejected. PLEASE, if you know who had him before Vickie or where he is now, PLEASE PM me!!!!!!! |
hunger4justice by Keith Grossman on 09 August 2011 - 13:07 |
| "SO your snide remark holds no water. YOU are sorely taking the side of a DOG ABUSER by making such a statement." Garbage; I am in no way taking the side of a dog abuser by pointing out that the problem starts with the people who are dumping the dogs in the first place. When I take a dog into my home, he/she is there for life, not just until he/she is no longer useful to me. Dress this up in pretty packages with shiny bows on it with all of the little euphemisms but it nothing more than lipstick on a pig. |
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