German Shepherd Dog > Leasing a Bitch (14 replies)

Leasing a Bitch
by Judy P on 20 February 2011 - 22:55
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Have any of you ever leased a female to breed one or two litters out of?  If so was it a good experience or not?
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by nonacona60 on 21 February 2011 - 05:05
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I have done leases on two occasions.....Both times went very well....However both people who leased them to me were close friends of mine....From my experiences, I would tell anyone to seriously consider leasing......JMO
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by Jenni78 on 23 February 2011 - 05:25
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 From a business standpoint, logistically, it sounds like a good idea. From an ethical standpoint (and no, I'm not saying it's "wrong"), to me, it sounds kind of icky....passing a dog back and forth, borrowing a dog, leasing a dog like you rent a car...just to get a few litters out of her.

Hmmmmmm, don't know that I personally would do that except in a situation with friends were involved and the dog was comfortable with them. Otherwise, I think that has the potential to be pretty stressful for the bitch, especially if you're swapping homes on her near whelping time. Some bitches may not do too well with that. 
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by Kimmelot on 24 February 2011 - 03:58
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I leased one of my female's , but she stayed home with me, the person that leased her had to pay for all the food and medicine for the litter, and owed me $$ in the end. It was a good experiance because I got to raise the litter and still be in control of her care. They got the puppies out of there male they wanted with fresh blood to be able to keep. It worked for us.

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by Jeff Oehlsen on 25 February 2011 - 04:07
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 Quote: From an ethical standpoint (and no, I'm not saying it's "wrong"), to me, it sounds kind of icky....passing a dog back and forth, borrowing a dog, leasing a dog like you rent a car...just to get a few litters out of her.

It is a dog goofball. Not a child or a girl, it is a dog.

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by OGBS on 25 February 2011 - 04:44
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I think that anyone considering leasing a bitch should contact former New York Governor, Eliot Spitzer, prior to doing so. He may have some insight as to the pros and cons! (pun intended)
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by Jenni78 on 25 February 2011 - 04:56
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 Goofball (Jeffy), read the whole post. I'm fully aware it's a dog. READ THE SECOND HALF FOR MY REASON FOR MY STATEMENT. 
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by Jeff Oehlsen on 25 February 2011 - 05:05
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 NO! DON"T! STOP! 



ok, go ahead, please do,

Ever wonder why men are confused ?


Quote: Some bitches may not do too well with that.

Then you would know the bitch is junk. A good bitch should not care.

Can I lease your bitch ?? AAAAAAAAAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHa

That sounds dirty to me. 

Uh, yes Jenni, My GF and I would like to lease your bitch for a while. Can you knock the dust off of it and send it ?? : P

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by Jenni78 on 27 February 2011 - 00:11
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 I totally agree and would never breed a bitch like that. However, most people do and make excuses for them acting squirrelly for far less valid reasons than that, so I thought it was a valid thing to bring up.

I will say that some "civil" bitches may not like to be near total strangers when whelping and could be a little dangerous to well-meaning "caretakers." Just ask my dad about that.   

I would not lease my bitch to anyone ever, I'm way too much of a control freak.  I don't think I am very confusing, Jeffy. Not to you or to men. 
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by windwalker18 on 27 February 2011 - 01:59
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I would have to agree that leasing to someone you KNOW is an important part of the deal.  I have leased bitches to other breeders  I knew... but my bitches weren't bred all that often.  even my foundation bitch and her sister only had a few litters.  I leased Gemini to a close friend who had a Male I greatly admired as I wasn't planning on breeding her for more than a year... I told her all I wanted was pick male from the litter.. Gem came home fat and sassy with her #1son "Wizard".  

I'd have concerns leasing to someone living @ some distance from me... or whose home/kennel I wasn't familiar with. I want to know the way my dog will be cared for and live.  I would also want some comfort that the pups would be raised right, and buyers would be properly screened.  Again it all goes with knowing who the person that's leasing her is. 

I don't feel that it's valid to say "They leased the bitch, and should be able to do what they want with a breeding and/or sale of  her puppies"... I once purchased an entire litter from someone who used my male @ stud to prevent them from being sold to a Pet Store Chain... I care about where the kids go and as my dog's progeny they do reflect back on me.

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by Jeff Oehlsen on 27 February 2011 - 02:24
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 Quote: I care about where the kids go and as my dog's progeny they do reflect back on me.

Kids ? You mean puppies don't you ?
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by Princess on 07 March 2011 - 21:43
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I would just make this comment ,a bitch that is leased is a dog who is used for money and not valued  ,or the owner would breed her himself and pay a stud fee for a new bloodline. Just a thought
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by Judy P on 08 March 2011 - 23:02
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""a bitch that is leased is a dog who is used for money and not valued ""

I disagree, if I were to lease a bitch she would be a member of our family while here.  I simply would rather lease or purchase an adult bitch as opposed to a puppy.  I do not feel it is for money but rather to produce something for me to continue with. 
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by Jenni78 on 09 March 2011 - 00:17
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 I also disagree; someone could simply not have the money to buy a really superior bitch but if they could lease one for a litter, they would have offspring to make a foundation on. I think it's better than buying a POS and breeding it anyway.
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by windwalker18 on 09 March 2011 - 02:38
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Jenni... that's the exact reason.. The bitch I leased to my friend knew her, liked her and lived with her for the 4 months she was with her. She was my foundation bitch, and my friend wished to include her bloodlines in the breeding program she had, so leased her for that one litter.  Many years later she brought her top female back to breed to the male I had kept from the litter as well. 

I wouldn't lease a dog to someone I didn't know well, or that I didn't see 1st hand how their dogs are housed, whelped and raised.  Gemi came back in excellent health, and left a legacy behind her.  It was one of only 4 breedings in her life... her sister was only bred 3 times.  I also restricted my 2 studs breedings and each were only bred to 6 females in their life.  Quality was the goal, not quantity, nor income.

I agree that some people lease or swap dogs around like changing underwear... with no regards to the welfare of the bitch, nor the bonds she may have to them.  Dogs aren't  a product like a car that you can sell over and over again.  I hate seeing a bitch who's been bred by 3-5 different people... only to be spayed at 8 and dumped into yet another home, or left with a rescue or shelter... *sigh*  There's a middle ground though that takes the dog's needs into consideration as well as the owner/breeder.
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