Dear All,

I believe you are all Gsd lovers and this is not a very good idea to fight on forums like these. I usually don't comment on discussions like these but allow me to say few things.

I imported Orga from Mr Ralf Lang when she was 10 weeks old. She is an amazing breeder and those who have witnessed her litter (Daughters) competing and winning from High rated females like V-9 Nadia della Loggia dei Mercanti can tell you she truly represents the Hill line and produces very well.

The only issue here is that the picture of Orga on the database is extremely poor and was taken i guess when she was 18 months old and was sick in those days.

Although i don't own this female anymore but i will try to request the existing owner to upload a new picture.

Thx

V4 2009.

Totally agree this is not the place Missbeeb, i was trying my very best to avoid this little boy but he is hard to get away from.I will try and get in touch with the owner privately if he/she does not update info!! liz

Aristian, YOU have started all this rubbish, AGAIN!! Mind your own business for once, asking for a decent photo is a reasonable and simple request that would be beneficial. Is this bitch registered to you? No? Then clear off!

I have no desire to exchange posts with you on ANY topic, you're a complete waste of time IMO. You can't even read the comments properly before you respond with your usual angry trash! THE POSTS WERE ADDRESSED TO THE OWNER OF THE BITCH!

Why would you imagine that ANYONE would value YOUR opinion of their dog? You don't know anything about GERMAN SHEPHERDS and you're too arrogant / ignorant to shut up and learn.

We've ALL seen your ignorant and stupid comments about Zamp and numerous others. We've all seen how angry and rude you are because it's all you can be!

This is my last post on here, User Comments is NOT the place.

Funkey Monkey have you ever seen my female in person? You havent right? so why the hell do you keep bitching about her! Good help the frogs in your country! I am butting in because i feel like butting in! Do you have a problem with that? If you do then i dont give a rat's ass! She is V rated in Germany and V rated in Pakistan! Whether you like it or not! The owner doesnt have time to prove his female to a bunch of idiots like you! He has better things to do, like making sure his pups go into good homes, taking care of his dogs and getting food for them! If you dont like her go to hell! Its simple! This is my last post to you! Go to hell and rot their you jealous old fart!

ARISTIAN, are you the owner? If not i do not see why you are butting in. If this dog had just arrived from where ever looking the way she does,why would you put her picture on the database? On her information page,changes were made from a breeder in Norway, no hip grades, no "V" rating,as claimed,i am sure the owner has 5 minutes to update her info and photo.This is not about you or your dog,but i will say if your dog is what is considered VG-2? in your country, heaven help the breed!!!!!! You would think any owner would want thier dogs to be seen at thier best, surely. This bitch had a litter at just over 2 years,and then another 6 months later,no wonder she looks sooo bad.I would like to know when she had the time to "prove" herself. liz

Misbeeb and Funky lets have a look at your dogs. I would love to comment on them!

Misbeeb please go back to your knitting! If you want to disagree with judges from 2 different countries, that soo totally shows how relevant your opinion is!

Funky both her son and daughter are VG rated! Go to my girl's page and visit the gallery. Please take a look at her certificate. She came second in a show and got a VG 2 rating!

Zacsmum this picture was taken when Orga came from Germany. She was confused, had travelled from one continent to another and was also jet lagged. The owner of this bitch does not have enough time to update her picture, let alone sit on the internet. If you see what she has become now, ya'll will take your words back!

This dog is in very poor condition. If I owned a dog with feet like that I would be ashamed.
Artistian, we all know you have a vested interest in bigging this dog up, but please, tell the owners to give it some quality food and excersise.

Totally agree Missbeeb, my request was for the OWNER to post a better picture,and update with show/hip ratings. She has a VA1 sister on the data base,she is beautiful. The pictureposted here of ORGA is horrible,you would never think she came from the same litter.The progeny listed for ORGA is not really very good either,are there any more? I would like to know in what way has this female has "proved" herself? liz

Aristan, your opinion is totally irrelevant... we've ALL seen what you consider to be a well constructed dog!!! I did NOT request a comment from you... who would?

To the owner, please post a decent photo of your dog if poss', thank you.

Her sister is beautiful and so is she. She is a female who has proven herself in Germany and in Pakistan. PERIOD!

Who's hijacking? This is not a thread... it's "Users Comments", anyone / everyone is invited to comment. Mine has been a useful comment so has Liz's. A decent photo would be beneficial... that's pretty simple!

I do hope this is a bad photo,her sister is outstanding,it is hard to believe they came from the same litter. Although,there is a brother registered which is not the tops either. Just shows you how not all of a litter can get the looks.I do wish people submitting pedigrees would at least put in a good picture,and all the details,ie. grading and hip status.So far this female has not produced anything"special", time will tell. liz

Whatever, she has proven herself in Germany and she has also proven herself in many cities of Pakistan. Go hijack another thread!

Well bred but looks like a butchers dog...??? A decent 'photo / stack would be beneficial/

What a poor dog

She was imported from Germany. She was bred in the Freiheit Westerholt kennel. The owner is too busy to prove his female to a couple of guys on the internet. Have seen her in person and she is a lovely female!

Who is the owner/breeder of this female. Could you possibly submit an updated photo,as this one is not doing this female any favours. I have been informed this female is a V graded German import, could you update her info with this info,also hip grades would be nice. Thanks in advance. liz

a picture of orga will be much appreciated.