SORRY MR. BRAVO YOU HAVE A WRONG INFORMATION THAT THE DOG IS SOLD TO ANYONE.IT IS IN MUMBAI AND WILL REMAIN IN MUMBAI.THANKS TO SAY HE IS AGRESSIVE.MORE DETAILS FEEL FREE TO CALL:09323264693(BUNTY)

where is this agressive male now,not to be seen.i heard he is been sold ,he is in mumbai for couple of days.all the best to the new owner.please beware of this dog.

QUNTAM... you tell me WHICH IS BEST DOG ..EARO and EROS .all the eros puppies got eyes and hip dysplcia probelms

this is another good son out of hill farbenspiel, he is producing good females as compared to males. he is more on hill's line than ursus line. can i am write ?

good producer,my friend is have a female out of faro.very good female

dyandl,
I am not comparing Faro with Ursus I am just saying that forget Faro even World Sieger Ursus Von Batu is not spared from criticism. Another example I give you my brother I read somewhere that Double Sieger Yasko Farbenspiel is a big size bitch.
Why he was not shown I dont know.

why did he not shown......compare such pity dog with ursus show our senses.lo lo

Alex2007,
Which sieger hsow you are talking about. This year he was not entered. And his first siger show he won Youth vize sieger. I think that is not bad at all. May be according to you he has some shortcomings. But which dog does not have. Even Ursus is said to have short croup. So no point in discussing this. I think you should see a dog in totality.
About his progeny he has one of the best progeny in India. His female progeny is worth mentioning. Last sieger show his female became youth vize siegerin beating some imports. This year his son became SG4 in group of 15 dogs.
Please dont keep negative approach. See the good points of the dog.

this dog is short in croup and short in upper arm but good strenth and strong dog but he's children has same problem.we all know he"s placing in seiger show.hope?we should able to see each and everydog"s comment by given judge.

Why is almost half of this dogs face is missing?

Good news for Faro Lovers!!!!!!!!!

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Hi Raj,
Faro is now in Mumbai at his new owners residence. U really want to see him at this time. He is now in very good condition. Recentlly we mated 2 of our bitches with him.
Personally I want to appreciate his new owners efforts to maintain this dog at this superb condition in Mumbai.
For stud enq. u can call his new owners Mr. Pramod Pawar & Mr. Swapnil Desai(Bunty) at given no. 09224481785, 09320005559.

Where is Faro now? can anyone plz help me out.What r the stud fee?(new owner address plz)thanks,raj.

Certainly a magnificent male,a super dog with super anatomy,is producing true to his type,rich pigmentation. Also his progeny is more than promising. He is my favorite dog.All the best to faro.

Thanks for giving Faro for stud to our excellent bitches.
Sudi.

THANKS TO RED FEATHER GROUP FOR FARO'S PICTURES.

FARO'S PHOTO UPDATED.......!

Mr.Azim ,Faros produce in south is just superb and excellent.Alf HVs is also a nice male with mindblowing movement.Is this FARO'S latest photo,does he still looks the same.Its true that his progeny is the best among the top imports which are in India.Heard that this male has being sold to mumbai.Is faro coming for this seiger show, then all the best to FARO.

sinu.

One of the great producing male.saw him in bombay was in good condition.Also a good news first male who became champion in short period(within a week)according to KCI survey.All the best to FARO for seiger show and his owner Mr. Azim Farooqi.

Always crazy about the Faro's fire. One of the Best mover i can say in India this time.Many famous dogs came to this areana but they have only the big name on this board's list. This dog proove himself by his produce.
Best of luck from all of us.

Just see what this guy has produced. That is enough to silence the crictics. A look at the results of Indian sieger show 06 tells a lot about this guys progeny.

His half brother Vando (Same Father Hill Farbenspiel) was VA4 even his progeny are quite impressive.

Faro and Vando are good sources for Hill Farbenspiel blood in India.

I have a female and male sired by Faro and they have the best ears possible. One of my friends had a litter of 6puppies all with perfect ears.
It is a remote possibiliy that Faro could give soft ears. He has a very good pedigree and for me a very impressive dog.

If you want real courageous puppies use Faro. He is not for the weak hearted.

Faro's puppies need very strong handling an dtraining at a very young age.i.e 2 months on.

Can you believe a 9month old puppy ripping open the thigh of a full grown 3 year old lab/gsd mix.Just because he dared to venture into our yard??

Jeck had A3 hips

Hips A4
ZW 117
Hope this is some help to you all

Well I guess what ever the case may be he is a good dog, cos most of the top breeders have used him very nicely.

I have seen his progeny out of tyra of dogmatix too, vabulous pups but the thng is they have soft years, whcih i guess is the father's gift to them.

Anyways

He ost tp Upy's Alf in the Mumbai speciality by two positions.

A top dog indeed but there are a few better BI's too.

Faro's offspring will prove to India that, breeding based on Bloodlines Still Works. Faro is a dog who has great ancestors and capability.

I have a male and female puppy from him and they are among the best I have had, they are 8months old now.Line breeeding on Zamb Von der Wienerau 5-5,5,5 and Jeck Vom Noricum 5-5,5,5

No Temperment issues, No health Issues contrary to what many have written here.

I will update pictures in a couple of weeks time.

People may criticise him but currently he is among the top producers in India!

See his off-springs on dogmatix website with Mr.Sanjay Desai!

Mr.Sanjay is such a kowledgeable person,he has produced such quality in India which has beaten top imports! Look at the bitches he has Bred! and so you can imagine why he used Faro!

First off Jeck has a 94 HD ZW . I tried searching for Faros HWD ZW and couldn't find anything. I even tried searching for any info on faro and couldn't find anything. Nobody can show solid proof showing that faro has the same hip score of Jeck.
As for breeding dogs with bad hips, boy I can certainly see the future in the GSD dog breed. Even breeding to a dog that has a bad attitude problem. I don't understand why people need to feel that German shepherds need to behave in such way and then have the lamest excuse for their behavior.

We just concluded the 7th Indian Sieger Show with Mr Erich Bosl as the judge. The results will be put up seperately.

I am writing this for a dog who has had a lot of critcism and I asked Mr. Erich Bosl about Faro.

I also asked him why Jeck Noricom with the same hip score as Faro went on to produce great dogs with a normal hip score when Jeck was himself a NZ hip score.

His comments are like this " when you see a dog with a bad hip score and for some reason he has been mated, you must look to the family and his siblings and see their hip scores- if most of them also have hip problems then it is likely that the pups sired by this dog will also have bad hips. However if his other siblings have good hips there is a very high chance that the puppies will not have any hip problem. Also remember that the mother is important."

In Jeck's case his siblings had normal hips.

There is more to GSd breeding than meets the eye. I hope this rests this issue and it is for individuals interested in Faro to find out how his siblings fared on the hip score. Lets leave it at this.

Hi!
Mr.Ajit Mathews,thank you for appreciating my comments.

Can you please do me a favour by giving me a detailed result of the 7thIndian seiger show and also the list of foreign entries and new imports by people like Noori and Desai.

Also tell me how Faro&Hulk fared.

It is true that Faro has attacked a few persons, here it is important to know in what circumstances. My handler who is absolutely new to this dog could handle him with ease, yeah! Faro does not want to be messed with. And I appreciate him, I would prefer to own a dog like him rather than the coochie-poochie GSDs.

He has no instances of attacking anybody without provocation

Alex Mathew,
Oh and btw.... your puppies are only at the age of 67 days old. Yes they can be healthy now but how about in the next few weeks? health can change so much, if you know what I mean. Also that age is way too early of knowing if the hips are good or bad. you cant really say that their in perfect health, unless if they are free of all HD (both) and ED (Both) including all of the other stuffs. I do wish you the luck with your puppies. I hope they all come out free of HD and ED, including perfect spine.

Alex Mathew, Thanks for letting me know about India and not screening for HD... Do you by any chance have the list of all of the stud dogs that are currently there or being imported to the United states? If India doesn't screen for HD then I suggest NOT breed any dogs from that country... it's considered dangerous for the breed and for the reputation for kennels that's trying to improve the breed.

Anyhow... lets say that Faro does have good hips... how about his temperament? according to rmenon Faro has a history of being handler aggressive (attacking handlers and causing blood)... Why on earth would you breed a dog with that history? Lets not forget that our goals is to IMPROVE the breed and to get the breed off of the banned dog breed in some countries such as OZ. Our goals is also making sure that our beloved breed never to be shown on on headline news (CNN, FOX , etc) of "dog mauling that causes death" and causing deaths of children and such on.

Showing sympathetic to him? for what? He has nothing to offer in the breed as far as I know. It's ashamed that some of you guys don't even see it.

PLEASE stop talking as if Faro is a severly dysplastic dog, I am told that he originally got an A4 certification(Medium), which can be submitted for rescreening which the previous owner did not opt for.

99.99% of dogs in india are not screened for Dyspalsia, the greatest erstwhile champions may be dyspastic, who knows??.

Please be symphathetic to this Poor dog

I totally agree with Brittany,

HOW CAN YOU BREED WITH A MALE WHICH IS DYSPLASTIC ????

Blood line compatibilty should be considered if a specimen is anatomically fit and free from any deformities.

Visum,
you said "Don't worry Alex Mathew... don't break your head about it... He's got super lines and will suit your bitch very well... take the liter and enjoy the puppeis... Cheers"

Why shouldn't Alex worry? "If" faro has HD why shouldn't he worry? because Faro has great lines? Lines don't mean nothing when it comes to health. I think this is another scam of getting money for puppies if you ask me. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that you shouldn't breed to a male that you suspect of having HD (or ED) including if the male has a history of being aggressive towards his handlers... is this what we want in our beloved breed? is to have dogs with ED and HD including handler aggressiveness? Please think before breeding.

Should perfectly agree with Anu. I have Faro's Puppies now 67 days old. Seeing is believing, They are among the best puppies I have ever had.

Heavy Bone, Dark colour and Excellent Pigmentation, Very Good Appetite and Excellent Health. I just can't wait to see how these beauties will turnout to be.They weighed +12Kgs at 65days.

ALL THE BEST TO FARO AT THE SIEGER SHOW 2005

Hi! people i think many of you may criticize Faro but he so far has been an Outstanding Producer. For details and pictures please contact Mr.Azim. I had seen him at last years
B.P.K.C show and he was Marvellous.

Let's see what happens at this Seiger show after 3 days.

Wizard
Agreed with you 100%.

mathaus,
I don’t agree with you here,
he might be Indian champion or …………. IF the dog is dysplastic and is a “champion” his progeny would get some gift. If the dog has a problem one doesn’t “have” to breed with a Dysplastic dog.
Why do you think Nero is banned , with the naked eye he’s perfect, as perfect as a VA, on the other hand I very well know this isn’t Germany and we cant and shouldn’t compare ourselves with them but we should at least have an approach! We don’t have a perfect GSD or something but we should strive to breed from the best what we can!!

ERH

Thanks for the comments

Yes, I have used Faro Zum Gigelsfelsen and at that time I did not know his Hip status. Now I have a male pup and a female from him just about 15days old which are not for sale, so no one else will be effected other than me(in case). I am eager to see if they have any hip problems, if they have then may be I can keep them out of my furture breeding plans.

I do not think that i have done a mistake, only thing is that I need to be a little careful while upbringing these pups and in their breeding plans

I once again reinstate my stand which i have placed on board elsewhere, if there is a hip scoring facility in India, I would be the first to get that done on all my existing stock

Wizard,
Come on he is and Indian Champ with three straight CCs in three of the first shows he attended! He is as they say "titled".
The naked eye will see no hip problems.The naked eye will see fire, spirit and then a lot of fire.You also cannot mess with him.

Is this dog having Dysplastic Hips ??

Hello Mathaus.

I have no good advice for this matter as long as the mating already has been done. I'm sorry if my comment came out the wrong way, as I am not blaming anyone in particular.

I'm located in Norway, and feel free to contact me at espen.rh@c2i.net

ERH,
Where are u located. Thank you for your comments on Britney my bitch.She's a darling and the most loved member of the Mathew household, and sometimes when she is around I wonder whether people at home know I am there. All my three dogs, Britney, Vendor and Amigo Della Roca Malatestiana are family members.
About Faro, let me explain. Alex has used Faro on his bitch being a newbie. He realises NOW that it may be a mistake but now that the deed is done there is no point in losing sleep over it. Hope for the best and hope that the pups have no problem. Yes we are all concerned about hips whether we can score hips in India or not.But there is no guarantee that a dog with a NZ hip must and must give hip problems. That is why I brought up Jeck.But yes I do not recommend a stud with NZ hips. Tell me what you would reccomend now in this situation. I do not know what else to Advise Alex.

This discussion should shock me - but it's gotten way to common, so it don't.

23. october
ALEX MATHEW: "Did he fail the hip test?"
VISUM: "Don't worry."
ALEX MATHEW: "I hope for the best
and leave the rest to God."
03. desember
MATHAUS: "Check hips score of VA
Jeck Noricum.... Jeck went on to
produce."

What is this? Don't all that are truly interested in the GSD have a common responsebility for the breed. HD is a major problem all over the world when it comes to our beloved breed. We can't turn our back at this problem - and that include India as well.
I can guarentee you that the possibility to import good GSD from Germany without HD is clearly there. Dogs that do not have a negativ health-record. Take your time locating these future dogs for your country - do not rush in to things. It's a matter of contacts, so obtain these before the dog itself.

Best of wishes.

Thanks Mathaus for the Update. Only if we had a Hip scoring facility in India

Pch.. Pch..

Faro is still with Azim but not in his house.You cannot have Hulk and Faro under the same roof. It will come down.

All this about Faro's hips. If I am correct, Alex, check the hips score of VA Jeck Von Noricum- you will be at peace.Jeck went on to produce and how.

Agree with Visum- Faro has a great pedigree. And by jove the fire he has is not ordinary.Moreover he was a spoilt brat by Konrad Sigmund and family ( he remained in the house and Konrad's other dogs were outside)and continues to be so.

Faro took just three shows to be an Indian
Champion.OK Ok you will say it was Azim, but then remember Azim had other dogs too but this feat with Faro was unique and special.

If you need cto quiet Faro down you need to work him so much and tire him. too much unutilised energy is the devil's workshop for him.

rmenon

Is faro still with Azim or sold to someone??

Last evening Faro ripped the hands and lower lip of one guy in Bombay....aslo heard that he had ripped the new owners hands a few days ago...

Where is the photo????

Visum

Thank you

I Will keep you posted about the developments of my bitch and the litter
Alex

Yeah the lungs... Thankyou Cattimore, I promise you will as every year see me with some thing exciting.
And Alex Mathew anytime my friend... do keep us posted about you litter.... Cheers

Thanks Visum

I hope for the best and leave the rest to God

Alex

yes visum i agree with u. its good to hear that u have used her on Ch.Vinmins Quina. god help ur lung power. Quina moves moves moves moves. as u say Faro also moves exceptionally well. then what happens to the poor human lungs !! mate. do we see the big athlete moving again ????
cheers and good luck visum. awaiting to see something extremly exciting in the show rings in the years to come.

Don't worry Alex Mathew... don't break your head about it... He's got super lines and will suit your bitch very well... take the liter and enjoy the puppeis... Cheers

Did he fail the hip test???

Isn't this the dog who failed his hips and was shipped out? Where is he now?

Witnessed this young male at Indian Seigar show. nice spirit, also nothing extraordinary from him he is good import dog, nothing much nothing Less. but in hands of Azim he will turn into something more. we shell see. good luck to peoples mated theres bitch with him.

A Bautiful male... very Harmonius is construction... Firm and dry with very high Drive, And what blood!!! half brother to VA11 bitch Aike zum Gigelsfelsen. The bloody bugger is the devil himself when it comes to willingness to move/work... I had the pleasure of handling him in Bombay and thoroughly enjoyed showing a dog who loves to Run, Run, Run and Run a lot more....
I have used him on My Top Produceing V Ch.Vinmin's Quina and expecting a litter soon.