Line breeding Asko von der Lutter - Page 3

xpyro, 2-2 was done in other breed, this female was top winning and top producing, I planned to breed same way in GSD but that is almost impossible, as dogs are sold in crazy tempo, so its almost impossible to make longer term planning, wanted to use the male Graucho, on the ofsspring of his sister Gila, but graucho was sold to USA way to soon 

 

here is 2-2 i did 

Nevada Pepper v.d. Duca Vallei (pedigreedatabase.com)

ha, I had a Bouv when my kids were young. great dog. he was never 3 steps from them when they were out and would just block their path if they started to wander too far. never took his eyes off them and no one could approach them. he could be pretty rough if needed.

but the coat was a nightmare. my spouse at the time was a runner and when local dogs kept running out on her she started taking Boog with her. 5 miles a whack and he did it for several years and no other dogs would even look their way after the first day or two. if a car was coming, he would bump her till she either stopped or was completely off the road. really amazing.

sorry, back to Asko.

The line-breeding on some top-notch working Dobes in Germany would make most GSD breeders blush, lol.

I personally think, when done intelligently, that linebreeding is very effective. I wish that more breeders would be considering it in their programs instead of outcross after outcross.  Now, I'm not experienced enough to say whether linebreeding on Asko is a good thing or not.  ;)

Koots,So you say that many top-tier breeders in Germany breed poorly?
I am not saying that everyone does it well but in Germany there is a lot of experience, as in the Czech Republic, they are references in German Shepherds all over the world ... so why do they import dogs to everyone?

txar the answer to that question is fame

I think there has to be something more than fame ... but I can't prove it either. Eqidius already breeds 90% with sporting dogs from the West German line, I like Czech, Slovak, etc. dogs, but it is more difficult to see their offspring. My friend has bought a daughter of FRODO HANMARK (Chris spod lazov x Kookie Grauenfeld X GOUDA MIDOLLYK (Koko midollyk X Orna Spod Lazov) we will see that ... I have orders my puppy in the kennel Jabina.

Txar - I feel that some breeders (no matter where they are) do not truly understand how genetics work and their programs are not based on science but on $. To combine dogs successfully both genetically and with regard to the 'dog in front' is a rare ability. As a world-competitor was heard at a seminar recently (paraphrasing)..."I thought breeding good dogs was easy after my __-litter, but boy was I wrong".

To be truly skilled as a breeder takes intimate knowledge of individual dogs, lines, genetics and how to combine these things not just once, but repeatedly. Kennels that litter after litter are producing top dogs which are not good at just 1 thing but are versatile is rare.  Look at Drago Eqidius and the kennel Eqidius.... many successful dogs in recent years have Drago in the pedigree.   Look at how close Drago is linebred.   That should tell you something.

I have never said that Eqidius is a bad kennel, I have said that Eqidius at the moment tends to breed with a high percentage of West German dogs. Eqidius has had very good dogs in many pedigrees, like Teufeskehle, Mohnwiese with Ellute for example but he has more dogs and so a great list ... when a kennel hits the key with a cross is when he becomes famous, I have seen litters repeated that the first litter was very good and the repetition not so good, the genetics are very capricious

motherline of drago/nike is old slovak blood, many of todays all west dogs bred in czech and slovak are what they are, west sport dogs, mostly bred for the fame of the male to help sell the pups, only few breeders are really doing more than produce pups, Equidius being one of them,

The litters that Eqidius has now, how much do they have from old lines? 10%? Drago is normally already at 5 ° in most pedigrees ... I am not saying that Eqidius breeds badly !! but in my opinion he does not breed like years ago