K-9 Avar Hoping to find his pedigree. - Page 2

Pedigree Database

by duke1965 on 09 November 2019 - 14:11

but what would it be to you if you found out what his pedigree was, probably 25 years old now ?

by Hukka on 09 November 2019 - 14:11

duke it would have been a challenge that I enjoy and I would be helping a member here. And supposed there is also a satisfaction of completing a task.

by duke1965 on 09 November 2019 - 14:11

that part I understand, but wouldnot help to get anything like that again

by emoryg on 09 November 2019 - 14:11

Hukka, thank you again for trying. I am away for the holidays and do not have access to everything from this computer. Plus, my internet connection is less than ideal. I will keep checking to see if I can find other information that may help. You always seem to find the right name, despite how far off I am on the initial information!

Duke, I would like to reference this dog and having his registered name in the credits would be helpful, but not necessary.

by Hukka on 09 November 2019 - 14:11

duke, the only interest I had in the dog was to try to find the name for emory

by duke1965 on 09 November 2019 - 15:11

understand, but same as today, LE are not interested in the pedigrees, so it will be hard to find, but good luck

by Hukka on 09 November 2019 - 15:11

Very true duke, hoping emory will remember more.

by emoryg on 10 November 2019 - 08:11

Hukka, I will call the vet office this week in case they have his birthday on record. As I mentioned, it would be nice to reference the entire dog’s name.  There is a growing trend where law enforcement agencies are starting to flinch about police dogs tasked with criminal apprehension.  His information could be included on a proposal package that may help maintain or even start new K-9 programs.  Thanks again!  BTW I would faint if I found out that Avar was a littermate to Arne Eqidius.   


Duke, the handler may not be interested in a pedigree (why would he?), but my crystal ball tells me in the not so distant future, agencies will not only be more interested in the pedigree, but also the genetic makeup of the police dog.  


I did manage to find a letter on the call I referenced where Avar played janitor's dog at the school.





by duke1965 on 10 November 2019 - 10:11

emoryg, they should but I doubt it , I did korung today with my male, who is old (czecho)slovak linnes, and there were many modern sportline dogs there and I noticed many differences in behaviour, made me think about a thing or two in reference to breeding and what LE and society wants to see today


by emoryg on 10 November 2019 - 14:11

Duke, there is an ugly storm headed towards the police dogs in this country. A few agencies already recognize the severity and are being proactive in attempts to avoid further liable issues. Unfortunately, many departments have no idea what is taking place until they start receiving open record request for police dog encounters involving bites, which includes but not limited to; SOP’s, use of force policies, training records, body cams of the handler and every other officer who was dispatched to the scene (which I am very much in favor of), pictures, witness statements, reports and everything else associate with the use of the dog as an instrument of force. Mine were requested last year and I have not handled a police dog in ten years.

There are already million(s) dollar law suits that are starting to work their way through the courts. Many, many more than this involve six figures. Some agencies are trying to settle early, even for enormous sums that were all but unheard of ten years ago. Once additional case law begins to set a precedent, it may be open season on every agency who has a police dog tasked with criminal apprehension.

Some of the more interested topics being addressed include discernment (lack of), predator, breeds designed to injure or maim, DNA related eye glazing (this has been around a few years), vicious, uncontrollable, choke outs, and loose cannons. My own thoughts are that it will take 2-5 years to have a strangle hold on the LEO community, though I heard a rumor that some PSA type commercials are in the works. Instead of seeing commercials from attorneys asking if you have been injured at work, or hit by a drunk driver, it will ask have you been a victim of a police dog bite.

All agencies in the States want a dog who will be a valuable asset to their department, not a financial or public relations nightmare. What they don’t want or need is a dog who is a menace to society. They don’t want a police dog who gets away from the handler or escapes his containment, and runs down anything moving like a child on roller skates, mom pushing a stroller, dad cutting grass or grandma rocking on the porch. They don’t want a dog who takes four minutes to be asphyxiated and lose consciousness so he can be pulled off a suspect who is already face down and handcuffed throughout the ordeal.

BTW a new word for the hacks who started infiltrating the police dog industry ten years ago and created this disaster……subrogation. If they don’t know what that means, they soon will.

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