by PinkKarma on 13 May 2018 - 02:05
ARE rottties that much stronger than normal sheps? I mean i am talking real working lines east european which have a much stronger build and power than other lines from what i see.
I dont speak english well but trying to understand
Rotties perform horrible in training
But in real life two of the strongest men i have met who have mma training were eaten alive so fast by untrained rotties
my female was able to over come that same rottie so easy but she might just be rare
are most sheps weaker than rotties? Bite work the rotties always cower away so i do not get why in real life they were able to to ruin such a strong alpha man so fast.
Have german shepherds mostly lost this abililty aside from few rare gems in europe?
by duke1965 on 13 May 2018 - 06:05
individual rotties or Gsd dont tell the story of the whole breed, but unfortunately, the rotties in europe have the same problem as the GSD in the sport breeding, everything on prey and trained behaviour , no natural drives and god forbid, work on agression in defence.
in real life situations, tho once that still have the natural drives and social agression, will function untrained, and in untrained situations.
by PfalzSteegen on 13 May 2018 - 10:05
I try to refrain from commenting on this forum because it gets so controversial after a day or so, not to mention how quickly it goes "off topic" with a flood of nonsensical information from the regulars that post on this list. I have been involved with the working breed of dogs for over 30 years (ROTTS; GS; DOBES) and I have also lived in Germany off and on for the past 20+ years. I am currently residing here for the past 5 + years. Yes, I have to agree that those breeds have lost their "magic", both here and in the U:S unfortunately. If I were to recommend a breed right know that still exhibits the "drives of old" I will say try a Dutch Shepherd. These dogs are not for the "faint of heart". If you do not have a purpose for them and just want a "pet" do not get one, you will drive them crazy and they will do the same to you.
These are my boys. Rott (3yrs) and GS (11Mths).
by abbeyjporter on 15 May 2018 - 09:05
by apple on 17 May 2018 - 13:05
by PfalzSteegen on 17 May 2018 - 21:05
Yes Apple, you are correct in the case of the Rotts. Quite a few of them were also handler aggressive. Unfortunately, for the last 2 decades, we have been living in a society of lawsuits, so the custodian of the various breeds had no choice but to "water down" the temperament. Here in Germany, it's no different. They have been doing the same for the last decade.
by BlackMalinois on 18 May 2018 - 08:05
I read a story this week in Holland a 10 years old GSD bite 3 man serious and protect his female handler try to hijjack very good GSD never trained before...you must be lucky also natural individual genes/quallity from the dog.
by Sherman-RanchGSD on 18 May 2018 - 16:05
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