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Kaffirdog

by Kaffirdog on 27 April 2018 - 10:04

Perhaps you can visit the breeders vet with the pup, with the breeder there as well, so they can see for themselves. Discuss it face to face and see what is on offer, the vet can witness the offer and the breeder is more likely to be reasonable in front of their vet. Ask what the breeder will do with the pup if you return it. The overbite and testicle could still resolve, both conditions can be a growth stage in a pup this age, the cataract would be more of a concern. Weak hind legs can be a development stage, particularly in showlines, but if it is a hip issue at this age, it will only get worse and anything likely to need surgery to eyes or bones is going to be a financial headache, will cost thousands and not always resovable even then. If you can't afford it, then think seriously and don't let your heart rule your head.

Mindhunt

by Mindhunt on 27 April 2018 - 12:04

I am so sorry for both you and your pup.  I had a similar experience, purchased a female for Schutzhund and breeding.  She was amazing at Schutzhund, drivey, smart, and eager to please.  Unfortunately she failed her OFA's at 2 years old.  Born without a left hip socket and a severely dysplastic right hip socket.  She has been in pain since the day she was born per the vet who specializes in this.  I was told that I would be lucky if I got a few years out of her before she became so crippled.  My breeder got a copy of the vet report and refunded me in cash the full purchase price and asked to be kept informed of how my dog was doing through out the years.  As for cost, I don't want to think about what I have put into to her over the past 12 years.  Pain medication, acupuncture, supplements, chiropractic, massage therapy, hydrotherapy, cold laser therapy, and equipment to help her be active and comfortable.  Was it worth it?  Yes!  Was it difficult at times with the time commitment, learning massage and all the other things I do for her, yes!  Is it worth the finances?  Get back to you on that, no just kidding, she is worth it.  What I have learned to do for her also helps me with my 15 year old who is experiencing difficulties from severe physical abuse as a puppy (before I got him).  If you do decide to keep the puppy, you will be in for some work and a time and financial commitment.  Think carefully about what you are going to be in for since this is a lifetime commitment.  Good luck


DuganVomEichenluft

by DuganVomEichenluft on 27 April 2018 - 14:04

OP admitted it was her neglect for not checking things before purchase.

As for the refund, if there wasn't a contract, then it's free game on the breeders part. If there was a contract and it reflects such health issues, then it's in your favor.
A caring and ethical breeder would refund your money regardless of contract as long as it is proven the dog has such health issues. On the flip side, it's only YOU who thinks she may sell the dog again. Which is speculation. Is it possible the breeder just wants to make sure the dog is correctly cared for? Yes, there's a possibility. She truly doesn't know you 100% and may feel you won't care for the dog correctly or doesn't want the dog bred and wants it returned. Who knows.

Jenni78

by Jenni78 on 27 April 2018 - 17:04

Ok, devil's advocate here, presenting another view...AnnLand, could your vet be a little over-zealous with the diagnoses? There are vets who just think any GSD is a health nightmare. There are vets who hate breeders, and find something wrong with dogs from breeders. There are a myriad of reasons that this might not seem as bad as it is. You either got the unluckiest puppy in the world, or there might be a bit of a propensity toward over-diagnosis here.

Skeletal issue, maybe HD: I have never heard of hip dysplasia being diagnosed at 10 weeks. I will go further and say NO WAY. This sounds like a vet who might not be very experienced in normal growth/gait patterns in GSD pups (or this puppy is the unluckiest puppy in the world)

Cataracts- Please post photos.

Testicle retained- too early to worry about that. If it stays retained, have it removed and leave the other one alone and vasectomize it. Problem solved. Dog is hormonally intact for optimal growth and maturation, retained testicle is gone, dog will not reproduce.

Overbite...need to see pics to tell if that will correct itself as the pup grows. Overbites can, unless they are super severe. The lower jaw is the last to finish growing. I check bites around 4-6 weeks and then again at about 8, but they can go "off" at that point and not come back to normal/correct until around 8 months.

The chances are pretty low that this puppy has all these problems at once...hence my comment that he must be the unluckiest pup in the world. I sincerely hope I am right and this poor pup is not that bad. Please humor us and post pics or video, and pedigree as well, as that can tell us a lot more about the norm for the age.

Best wishes!

Jenni78

by Jenni78 on 27 April 2018 - 17:04

I just realized I missed one post. PLEASE return the puppy. Take the breeder up on her offer. Sounds to me like she is concerned he may have been misdiagnosed and wants the best for him or she would not offer to refund. No horrible breeder offers a refund. Stop pretending you're rescuing this pup- don't play martyr. Give him back and get your money back. Walk away.

Baerenfangs Erbe

by Baerenfangs Erbe on 27 April 2018 - 18:04

 ^ What she said! Just return the puppy and walk away.

And ya'll others, quit feeding into this. The only logical thing to do is to return this puppy and to walk away.


Sunsilver

by Sunsilver on 27 April 2018 - 21:04

I agree - return the puppy!!

If you keep it you are just encouraging a bad breeder.

by Nans gsd on 28 April 2018 - 23:04

Yes I would return the puppy...Nan





 


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