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by Sunsilver on 27 December 2017 - 15:12

I would ask the breeder about how the dog was raised. If it was exposed and socialized like a good breeder should do with their pups, I'd send it back before I get too attached to it. Genetic shyness can't be fixed.

It's my feeling that a pup with good nerves should not run from things that are strange or new. Yes, be a bit suspicious/cautious, but still show some desire to check them out. Socialization is not the cure for everything the way some people make it out to be. Some puppy mill dogs can still make great pets because they have a sound nerve base, and quickly adapt once exposed to the normal world.

An example from my own experience: when I brought my older female home, she had never been exposed to kids, and was nervous of them because they were noisy and moved fast. It only took 2 exposures to them in a local park, where they were allowed to pet her and feed her treats for her to change her mind about them.

The pup with poor nerves was still frightened of kids after many, many positive experiences with them.

by duke1965 on 27 December 2017 - 18:12

socializing, like training, will not repair genetic shortcomings


by yogidog on 27 December 2017 - 18:12

Duke that's if it genetic. Nobody knows the pedigree and I'm sure with 40 years experience they would not pick a week pedigree

by duke1965 on 27 December 2017 - 19:12

pedigree doesnot guarantee shit, just look at variety in one single litter, let alone all pups from one sire or dam,but besides that Im just pointing out that some crap dogs will not be good dogs, no matter how much you socialize them


by yogidog on 27 December 2017 - 19:12

Yep I understand what u say. But until pedigree is released we have no idea but I hate to right a dog off until all angles are looked at

by Nans gsd on 27 December 2017 - 19:12

In the past I have experienced this on a female but it was from birth on; could be why the breeder sold her. Or rehomed her. Sorry for the animal and I watched my female struggle with this problem all her life; would not let anyone in her world until the day she died. Not a nice way to live for a dog and I definitely felt very responsible for this for her but kept working her every chance I could get to introduce her to someone new to no avail. Soooooo, point being I know 6 months is a scarey age if they are going to go thru this and maybe even until after her first season comes and goes. A couple of months maybe beyond this time and then re-evaluate her. Whatever you choose to do best of luck with her. Nan


PS:  I saw an airline personnel open a crate upon shipping a dog once so don't think they are always trustworthy.  Just sayin'.

by Nans gsd on 27 December 2017 - 23:12

As an afterthought; I would do a complete CBC and urine panel; be sure she feels her best. She has been displaced and maybe her young body just cant handle it right now. JMHO Nan

by ValK on 27 December 2017 - 23:12

seems like one more attempt to extort refund from seller, using this board as tool for blackmailing.
little search shows that OP is Tanya Wisler from TX. breeder of chihuahua, GSD, tibetan spaniel (looks pretty much like puppy mill), owner of v. Wisler-Haus
previously had an issues of contract breaches with breeders Jean Schrader of Schraderhaus kennel and Constance Krebs of Spartanville kennel.

by Gustav on 28 December 2017 - 03:12

I’m not saying socializing will cure genetics, I am saying that total isolation during first six months of life can have profound effect....some of which can be recovered with socialization henceforth, and some of the effects will never be reversed. How much is one or the other is usually determined by genetics.

by ValK on 28 December 2017 - 08:12

Gustav as always right. it's just side effect of "slow maturity of eastern german shepherds".

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