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by besta on 19 May 2017 - 20:05

Thank you for correcting the pedigree.bulldogger1 is cobblestone kennels.she continues to promote the fake pedigree for profit.If sends in a complaint ask her for paperwork.The NATIONAL KENNEL CLUB set me straight with the correct pedigree 3 years ago.I just don't want to see others get scammed like I did
Fantom76 (admin)

by Fantom76 on 19 May 2017 - 20:05

But Ray... what about all those other misspellings. If I correct them, and I will enter the reg numbers, you have to promise that from now on, you will enter dogs names EXACTLY as they are spelled on the pedigreeClever


by besta on 19 May 2017 - 20:05

That's not a problem on my end.Any dog needed I will have paperwork for.i will go through all of the dogs I've registered and make sure they are correct.Thank you again for fixing this
Fantom76 (admin)

by Fantom76 on 19 May 2017 - 22:05

Fair enough
I'll check back tomorrow then and correct those that you did not enter and I'll fix them. If you have trouble changing the names, try entering the reg number and then change the name.

Fantom76 (admin)

by Fantom76 on 19 May 2017 - 23:05

Here is a suggestion. Looks like the NKC number is the year of birth/registration followed by a dash then 9 digits. How about we have members enter the year of birth/registration then only the first 7 numbers. leaving off the last 2 numbers (instead use ??)  like NKC 09/1234567??.

That way someone has to know most of the number and we could verify that ( you can not make up a fake 7 digit number). but not knowing the last 2 numbers, a con artist could not register their dog as being produced by one of these dogs.
Sort of like when the bank or someone asks for the last 4 digits of you SS number. It's a verification, but yet not the whole number.
I have to run this by the rest of the Admins, but I think it would work. What are your thoughts?


by besta on 20 May 2017 - 14:05

I think after talking with a few different moderators on here the easiest way to fix this is if there's a dog in question message the person who entered the dog & have them send you a copy of the dogs papers in question.i myself along with others just don't feel safe leaving a full registration number out there for the general public to have access to.i have paperwork on every dog I've ever entered on here & so do the others that dogs are being singled out.i am just trying to help everyone resolve the issue

Fantom76 (admin)

by Fantom76 on 20 May 2017 - 14:05

If you need help with this breed, ask me and I will try to help you. There is no agreement among American Bulldog members except that you do not want to follow PDB rules of entering the date of birth and registration number. Per the rules listed below, Animals that don't have this information may be marked as no proof of registration or deleted.


by besta on 20 May 2017 - 16:05

So what are you going to do when people start sending you fake registration numbers?or use other members registration numbers?If you want all of this information but you dont want to be a registry it's going to happen.Then your going to start having organizations like the UKC,NKC,ABRA,USHBR on your back about fake dogs/puppies being registered with their registries.I tried saving you guys the headache
Fantom76 (admin)

by Fantom76 on 20 May 2017 - 18:05

Members are not supposed to send us anything unless we request it.  We do not maintain a separate registry for any breed.  PDB is for members to enter information about dogs and the moderators are here to help, add information  and verify if possible, information. There are less than 10 moderators for the 249 breeds of dogs on PDB so we obviously can not look at every dog that is entered and some breeds get less attention than others because there is no moderator who is experienced with the breed.

Pedigree listings are entered by the members, so why would the UKC,NKC,ABRA,USHBR be on our back about fake dogs/puppies being registered with their registries

When you register with PDB you agree to follow it's rules.  The ones pertaining to entering a puppy/dog are in my previous post.   They state that all breeds must enter a full registration number, yet  I was willing to try to get the other Admins to allow a partial number for American Bulldogs because "you don't feel safe entering the full number". I sent you several suggestions for entering registration numbers, but you always tried to modify them to enter less of a registration number.  Therefore there are no exceptions to the rules.

The following is excerpted from the Terms of Service at the bottom of page: The moderators have sole discretion in making decisions to edit, or remove comments or inaccurate information from dog pedigrees.


by susie on 20 May 2017 - 18:05

I may be naive, but for me one registration number means one dog.
I guess everybody who wants to cheat is able to find reg numbers ( breed clubs, web sites, ads, and so on).
I don't see the problem on this board but in the single breed clubs that are (or at least should be) responsible for any registration. There is no way to check for truth? They don't ask for proof? Too bad...They should do better...
A reg number combined with date of birth should be the minimum for registering in a PEDIGREE database, and after all nobody is forced to register a dog on this board...

Forgot to say..

Fantom, don't let people make their own rules. Purebred dogs do have a reg no, no reason to hide it.

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