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Hundmutter

by Hundmutter on 18 May 2017 - 05:05

Does Anna guard that sofa ?

BlackMalinois

by BlackMalinois on 18 May 2017 - 10:05

Real natural guarding instincts is very rare

this days  whatever wich breed its almost lost.. Kangal ,Caucasian Owcharka  this breeds have some in their genetics

 


by vk4gsd on 18 May 2017 - 10:05

Dam BM you deleted your rant, why you deleted?

 

How is this not guarding, zero training. No knpv dog or handler gonna take this bunny.

 

Knpv is a trained routine like any other sport.



yogidog

by yogidog on 18 May 2017 - 11:05

I have a male and female both from 7 weeks old natural aggression very and super territorial not trained instinct . Female is high drive and always had a high fight drive a 5 months the bitch would bite u for real . Male matured a little slower drive was not as strong but in a weird way his possession was higher . At 12 months he would kill you if u came into my house or garden . I use a chain and when on a chain at the front of the house they are very serious about there job .it doesn't matter where u put them the will guard any where. But once u take the off the chain I can bring them any where beach town any time . I don't let people touch them . They are al alert .

BlackMalinois

by BlackMalinois on 18 May 2017 - 12:05

Ok for all te experts here especial for VK who think he can steal the box I realy like to see that hahahaha.      X malinois out of KNPV lines no GSD insite his pedigree BRN 15855

Like to see any GSD here on this forum  who can do the same and have the same atitude on a dead subject ...

 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRN1X2K-BAQ

 

 



yogidog

by yogidog on 18 May 2017 - 13:05

Would not interested me in a dog guarding a box nice training all the same . If I get time I will make a video of my to dog no suits no sleeve no movement other than entry to garden . Then show the switch off . The real deal natural aggression

by duke1965 on 18 May 2017 - 15:05

VK a dog guarding a prey has nothing to do with preydrive

@ BM trained behaviour to trigger a certain behaviour when on the box, and dont understand why he should or shoulnot have a GSD mixed in, throw that dog on a fenced property and see if he really guards, guess yes but that guarding comes from a different motivation


yogidog

by yogidog on 18 May 2017 - 16:05

Good post duke

susie

by susie on 18 May 2017 - 17:05

"Guarding a box" ( = something the dog normally isn´t interested in ) has nothing to do with genetics, but with training only.
"You want to bite? You have to stay at a special item ( box, bag, bicycle ), and only in case the decoy tries to grab this item you are allowed to bite".
This behavior has nothing to do with "guarding" - may look like guarding, but in reality it´s regular bitework with a lot of obedience involved.

susie

by susie on 18 May 2017 - 17:05

Forgot to mention - the most territorial dog I ever owned was my last showline, but all of my self raised GSDs showed "territorial behavior", willing and able to defend, some more, some less, but always enough to chaise away burglars ( prooven, not "they could have done in case they had to... ).

Interestingly : different dogs = different goals. 2 of my dogs weren´t "territorial" in case of property that much, but very "territorial" in case of my person / my son.

May be the result of personal selection - whenever I picked a puppy out of a litter I wasn´t interested in the "outgoing, willing to make friends" puppies, but in the ones that weren´t interested in anybody besides the breeder, or even were aloof ( but not afraid ) of strangers.

Not the most social dogs, not suitable for "modern lifestyle", but I like them.





 


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