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susie

by susie on 26 April 2017 - 18:04

I once got a 2 years old male "by accident" - the male was rushed through bitework - shallow grips, otherwise fine. We retrained the grip for about 6 months, afterwards he was fine, no more problems, never ever.

That said in this case we don´t know the problem because we don´t know the dog.
In case the owner doesn´t believe in nerve problems I'd try to fix the grip.
The dog is still pretty young, and some grip training won´t hurt the dog ( only the nerves of the helper :) ).

Chaz Reinhold

by Chaz Reinhold on 27 April 2017 - 02:04

I would answer the poster that asked where you live. Many on here can recommend a good trainer/club in your area. I'm not trying to impugn the previous posters, because I respect Susie, Q man, and others opinions, but they will be the first to tell you that they can't tell you anything without seeing the dog. Best of luck.

by duke1965 on 27 April 2017 - 12:04

best is to see it to answer, but first I would say most of times it is genetic, must be pretty impressive job to get a dog with no issues to behave like that so mostly it is there to begin with.

plastic caps wont work in that case as they will (try to) resolve the result of the problem, not the problem itself

If the dog targets and grips good on a pillow type item I would take a half sleeve with a back handle on it, and put a 10 to 15 foot line on it and hold it like a pillow in one hand and the line in the other hand

If the dog puts a full bite on it let him win the half sleeve but allways keep pressure on the line, play game of TOW and get the dog back closer to the helper all the time, till the point where the helper can put the sleeve on the arm again

during all this time the handler  also should keep pressure on the line and never allow the the dog to drop or play with the sleeve

this is not a one session thing but should take multple sessions(months) to make the dog understand and feel comfortable with situation

in the mean time no regulair biting because one bad session will wipe out all you tried to do before that


by joanro on 27 April 2017 - 13:04

Here's a three and a half month old pup starting on tug after doing well on leather rag flirt. Teaching full grip on unfamiliar equipment. 

https://www.dropbox.com/s/i9mdruxagvvpus1/chekta%20arthur%20girl%20Red%2015%20wks.mp4?dl=0


Q Man

by Q Man on 27 April 2017 - 22:04

Look...I give anyone credit for wanting to do "Helper" work...We need to allow new people the chance to learn otherwise we'll have no new "Helpers"...but in saying that they need to learn from an Experienced "Helper" that can give them advice and feedback on How and What to do...
If you want your young dog to learn correctly then have someone work them that understands where you're trying to go and how to do it...
They are called "Helpers" because they HELP the Trainer...They are NOT the Trainer...Too many "Helpers" think they're the Trainer and in a lot of circumstances they are the ones that do the training but they need to learn what they're doing first...
So the thing to do is to have your Young "Helpers" learn what is needed and How to get your dog there...
I belonged to a SchH Club for a long time...We had a very Experienced...Good..."Helper" but he wanted to do all the "Helper" work and they didn't want to train anyone else...I think every club or group needs to bring a long New Young people to do "Helper" work...

~Bob~





 


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