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by vk4gsd on 25 April 2017 - 22:04

Yellow highlight means bad usually, what problem is??

Western Rider

by Western Rider on 25 April 2017 - 23:04

Yellow highlight mean to notice, make it different from other parts of paragraph.

I asked you a question and was showing you and others the part that I took from you post.


by vk4gsd on 26 April 2017 - 00:04

Gotcha, no I don't know any, that's my point.

The anti-title anti-ipo crowd insist on looking to titled stock to see what works, health, temperament, athletics......because they know its more rigorous. Then they skim off what they like.

They rely on someone else doing the work to stay in business.

Baerenfangs Erbe

by Baerenfangs Erbe on 26 April 2017 - 00:04

Oh that is ridiculous. You know how many IPO people themselves breed untitled females?

Also, untitled doesnt mean "not worked".


susie

by susie on 26 April 2017 - 11:04

Did any of you even read my initial post?


Why isn´t it possible to talk about dogs without personal emotions?
Why is it a bad idea to suggest "go out and train"?
Why is it a bad idea to show a dog once in its life?
Why is it a bad idea to health test?

This was the end of my OP:

You don´t believe in IPO? Do something else, but be ready to COMPARE, not to believe.
And in case you decide to do something else, at least show your dog once ( teeth, testicles, conformation ) in the young/youth dog class, that´s one day of your life....

and don´t forget about health testing.

End of rant, sorry, have been reading the classifieds, shouldn´t do that.
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What is the problem?

I guess you can´t imagine how many dog owners / breeders never ever read the standard ( be it AKC or FCI ), how many don´t know how much teeth a dog should have, what a scissors bite is, who believe that a dog chasing a ball and barking at the frontdoor is the rebirth of a true healthy working dog...

and more important:

how many of them will believe everything anyone tells them ( most often scrupelous sellers ), and later on they will proudly breed their dogs.

The only way to get out of this ignorance is to get involved, compare, and learn.


by Bavarian Wagon on 26 April 2017 - 13:04

Comparing and learning is key...but did you see when I was called out for saying I valued that comparison? I was told I'm just not good enough to be able to evaluate the dogs myself and that I'm a lesser GSD person because I value someone else's WAY MORE OBJECTIVE opinion about my dogs. That's America...and that's why it will never stop. Half assed work gets passed off as something amazing. Unsuspecting buyers ooh and ahh at any kind of dog biting. The breeders talk about their dogs biting near cars because it's more realistic while bashing the dogs that have done multiple trials on multiple fields because a field is just a field and not "real enough."

susie

by susie on 26 April 2017 - 17:04

I always hope some of lurkers, who read, but don´t post, understand my thougths...

BRADY BEE

by BRADY BEE on 26 April 2017 - 17:04

Always 👍

BRADY BEE

by BRADY BEE on 26 April 2017 - 17:04

And Bavarian Waggon 👍

by Swarnendu on 26 April 2017 - 17:04

Ditto that,





 


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