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by BlackMalinois on 20 March 2017 - 11:03

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BlackMalinois

by BlackMalinois on 20 March 2017 - 11:03


I noticed most GSD out of Dutch parents ,this list are not all GSD in KNPV

If I have some time I will be there , will make some videos

susie

by susie on 20 March 2017 - 17:03

Makes sense to me - the Dutch GSD enthusiasts started with German dogs, but in the 2./3. Generation they use home bred dogs. Why not?
Thank you for the list...it's a pity IPO and KNPV don't work together...Not good for the breed.
SV ( combined with a breed survey ) should recognise KNPV titles.

Something to think about...

Shawnicus

by Shawnicus on 20 March 2017 - 19:03

Ya let's ruin knvp too by involving ipo and weakening the gene pool even more creating more soft dogs.


BlackMalinois

by BlackMalinois on 20 March 2017 - 19:03


I think Susie try to say bring certified KNPV dogs in the SV system, but today its not alowed.....

 AS long as the SV  have the power the breed quality will reduce over the years. I hope breeders will wake up  its time for an other system

an organisation who believe in the importance of the breed and spirit as a real working dog , and not all that money and power games.

 

susie

by susie on 20 March 2017 - 19:03

Shawni, a couple of months ago I posted a link showing raising and training of a later TOP KNPV dog - did you watch it?
In case you did - why this comment?
Incase you didn't - try to find the old post..
Shawnicus

by Shawnicus on 20 March 2017 - 20:03

No I never saw it ,but Iam very passionate/outspoken against ipo , I believe ipo and ipo people are doing a disservice to the breed by breeding dogs to look good on the field and please sissy judges and enthusiast , although I don't think my type of dog is ideal either (at least for most people ) overly Sharp dogs with over the top social aggression and hardness who need catch poles for a month to bond with a new handler but so are overly soft dogs with no degree of sharpness is going to do any good for the breed. 

susie

by susie on 20 March 2017 - 20:03

There are good dogs in IPO, there are good dogs in KNPV, there are mediocre dogs in both...
IPO (formerly SchH ) is German, KNPV is Dutch - BOTH Systems try to find good working dogs - no difference...
Get involved in dog sport, and you will be amazed about the differences in quality.
You really should search the old post - may change your mind ( but you will need to understand the basics of sport, otherwise it's senseless )

susie

by susie on 20 March 2017 - 20:03

http://www.sigmacanine.nl/module-styles/seminars/58-education/80-training-videos-5

I hope the link still works, I am on the cell phone only....

Take a look at all the training videos, it's worth the time, and may change your mind...

Baerenfangs Erbe

by Baerenfangs Erbe on 21 March 2017 - 03:03

Except for the immediate parents, Sky Mahlermeister, is out of IPO stock
https://en.working-dog.com/dogs-details/2922979/Sky-von-der-Mahler-Meister

Pike Gardefense is out of IPO Stock
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=1338675-pike-gardefense

Kid vom Haus Valkenplatz IPO3 Dog
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=717278-kid-vom-haus-valkenplatz

Shall I keep going on?

ALL KNPV dogs come out of IPO Stock, Shawnicus!


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