Wolf trotting - Page 7

I disagree.

What is it you disagree to exactly Joanro?

And one more point, your dog can still have little more under reach and still land on the pads not the hock

 

Ibrahim, my dog stepped with back foot past where the front foot left the ground. She has as much reach as she should have otherwise she'd be crabbing.
I disagree with your idea you presented with your drawing and your explanation that a proper foot is being injured on ground other than grass.

If you mean the toes are being stubed or dragging, then that is likely a neurological problem.

The movement of the dog should be for utility in the real world, not for movement across a perfect plane. If the rear toes are dragging it can not help the dog across the perfect and can be disastrous on uneven terrain. I also think the way the German front operates gives the dog better control.

Did you watch the 2 videos I posted where judge explains what he calls "proper" structure and movement. Here is the point where rear foot toes touch the ground, see for yourself, this does not happen in a moderately angulated rear

 

Look at the far rear foot toes how they touche the ground when at the point of crossing the imaginary vertical line then forward under body 

 

Yes, Markobytes understands what I am trying to say

He put it in intelligent phrases, thanks Marko

I can't see the vids. But that screenshot shows improper landing of the back foot.../ that is what I was describing as hock striking the ground. It is only proper in animals such as bears, weasles, raccoons...not for dogs. If the dog's hock was supposed to strike the ground in that manner, they would have protective pads on the hock the same as a bear and other flat footed animals. The judge is wrong saying that is proper gait for a dog. 

Joanro, I swear I understand and agree to the danger of landing on hock, I AGREE.

Now, I am talking about another dangerous thing, that is tip of toes touching ground in trot.

Tip of toes: that is their front part from top side, not the underside of pads

Sorry Joanro for me not getting it through to you, but I think Marko knows what I am trying to say. And this happens only in overangulated dogs

I get it, here's what I said above;  

Ibrahim, my dog stepped with back foot past where the front foot left the ground. She has as much reach as she should have otherwise she'd be crabbing.
I disagree with your idea you presented with your drawing and your explanation that a proper foot is being injured on ground other than grass.

If you mean the toes are being stubed or dragging, then that is likely a neurological problem.


I dont think being overangulated is going to be the cause of the 'TOP of the toes' striking the ground first.