Bastin vom Kokeltal and Naomi vom Rhenania Eck as producers ?? - Page 1

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Bundishep

by Bundishep on 09 November 2015 - 00:11

Anyone know how well either of these dogs produced or own dogs out of either and what they are like, the good,bad or ugly ? Im trying to research a curtain stud and trying to find all the info I can on the genetics he comes from.


BlackthornGSD

by BlackthornGSD on 09 November 2015 - 02:11

Bastin was a great dog himself, and I really like his pedigree. As far as production, he didn't make a big impact on working bloodlines in the U.S. I understand there are some nice police k9s that he has produced, however. I'd contact Gary Hanrahan for more information, as he owned the dog and I think still has frozen semen from him.

Christine

vomeisenhaus

by vomeisenhaus on 09 November 2015 - 08:11

An old club member had a Bastin son. Very strong and powerful male. Hard headed and not an easy dog to handle. Went through a few owners before ending up in my old club at 4yrs old. He got his schH1 on him. He was from Lisa Clark's A litter. She is on this board and may chime in.

Bundishep

by Bundishep on 09 November 2015 - 19:11

Thanks both for input on Bastin, I dont run across alot of Bastin progeny and since Bastin won the BSP and the USA nationals i am very interested in his impact on the breed as far as his litters in America, im guessing he got most of his breedings in the southeast United States.So far i have gotten more feedback on his sons as producers and a grandson than Bastin himself.

by lhczth on 09 November 2015 - 19:11

I have seen him pop up here and there in a pedigree, but I doubt he had much impact. Actually it is pretty unusual that any male coming to the USA will have much impact on US breeding programs. Sad, but true.

I didn't keep anything from my A litter. 3 dogs titled including the one mentioned above, but none of the females were what I wanted for breeding. My litter was all over the place.  They did have very good hunt drive overall and big grips in protection, but a lot of that was coming through mom too. It wasn't an awful litter, though. IMO he was best bred to very strong fairly dominant (genetically) females. I would watch hips.


Bundishep

by Bundishep on 10 November 2015 - 03:11

Ihczth, excellent feedback thanks for sharing that gives more clarity.

KYLE

by KYLE on 14 November 2015 - 03:11

@lhczth, thank you for providing a honest opinion on your litter. Thank you for taking personal feelings out of it and calling it like you see. Just the type of person who can help improve the working ability of the breed.

by bseltzer on 15 February 2016 - 23:02

I drove to the Hanrahan"s to breed my Dalet von Seltzerhaus to one of their other males. When I arrived, Gary told me he had just gotten Bastin home the day before and suggested I breed my female to the winner of the BSP. We had six pups, two males and 4 females.

I kept a female. Another female was purchased by a divorced lady with a few months old baby. When that pup was seven months old, she called to tell me how cute her dog was because it had started picking up and carrying her baby around in its diapers. Luckily, she lived in my city so I rushed over and explained that the dog probably thought of her child as a toy. I explained that the dog could be a danger and took the dog back later placing it in another home where she had a good life and lived to 13 years. I gave the first buyer another dog. One of the male pups was extremely protective of his master. He was sent back to me as a two year old for some training. The dog, Cody, was solid as a rock and weighed 112 #.  The dog was later sent to Ivan Balabanov for Sch training. Ivan raved about the dog, Cody. The owner decided he did not want the dog living away from his home and never wound up titling the dog. That pup turned out to be a great dog but never got a chance for the world to see what he had and spent his life as a pet. However, one time someone tried to break into Cody's home and was severely injured by him.

Another male became a prison security dog in a Texas prison. Bastin, himself, was a terrific "for real" dog. He was a large, handsome masculine male. But, I do not know of any progeny that attained notoriety.

Seltzerhaus Kennels

 

 






 


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