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marjorie

by marjorie on 14 August 2015 - 03:08

Vk4, I wasn't bragging, I wanted to know how other Gsds would react in this situation. I thought CJ did the right thing-he protected but did not harm unnecessarily, aside from possibly making the guy wet his pants. The guy was not a delivery man, but someone who entered my yard, unnannounced and univited, despite signs and not one, but TWO gates!

by hexe on 14 August 2015 - 03:08

marj, vk4gsd wasn't referring to you...I have no doubt that he's as pleased as punch that CJ did his job and did it well, because that's what matters the most to vk4gsd--how well a dog does its work, not how attractive the dog is, and I'd bet that he's even a little surprised to hear that an American-lines dog showed that the instinctual behavior that is meant to be in the breed IS still present in those lines, contrary to the claims of many.

As to what my dogs would do--it would depend on the stranger, and the stranger's purpose. My dogs aren't raised with kids, but if a young child entered my yard uninvited, any of my dogs, past and present, would approach the child in a friendly manner and follow him or her around, watching the kid and trying to herd it to keep it in one spot. If it's a neutral adult, they'd bark as an alert, and physically block the person's progress further into the property until/unless I came out and called them back. If the neutral adult panics like the guy in your yard did, my dogs would react like Casey James--which is fine with me, frankly, because if they person is going to act like an idiot, I'd be questioning what they were really up to as well. And if the person wasn't neutral, acted a fool and tried to run, then yeah, the dogs would not hesitate to bite in order to stop him or her from moving further.

Type I dog? I think I'll pass on THAT conversation. Suffice it to say I have ZERO interest in a dog that is lacking in the ability to discern threat from neutrality, just as I have no interest in a dog that really believes a guy in a padded suit with a giant padded arm poses a true danger to anyone--sure, the dog should engage the padded suit guy, because it's what we want of them, but what use is a dog that can be so easily fooled into thinking that part of the game is real? My first GSD was one of Wyn Strickland's American-line, Lance-heavy breedings, and she showed me before she was a year old that she knew the difference between a real threat and someone who was faking being menacing--and she had never had anything but straight obedience training under her belt when that happened. Instinct & intelligence, coupled with a sound body and mind, are the foundation stones of this breed...as they should be. marjorie's Casey James may not be everyone's cup of tea as far as his lineage, but you can't fault his demonstration of three of these cornerstones in this situation.

Good job, CJ!

by xbitetab on 14 August 2015 - 04:08

  This is for

Blitzen and Marjorie!!!!!!!   FOR YOU!!


marjorie

by marjorie on 14 August 2015 - 04:08

Thanks, Hexe and apologies to vk4. I was glad CJ kept the guy at bay and stopped him from approaching me. Yes, the moron's screaming made things worse, ramped CJ up even more, feeding the frenzy. I know it didnt help that I kept screaming at the guy" who are you", before giving CJ his "LEAVE IT" command... I was relieved there wasnt a blood bath, because you can bet your buns that had CJ bitten him, CJ might have been taken away from me, although I would get the hell out of dodge before I would allow that to happen. I thought CJ did the right thing, but again, was curious how other dogs would react in that situation. I was also curious if there were people whose dog did bite in that situation, what were the ramifications, legally, when someone is trespassing on your private property and they get bitten. Does the dog pay for the trespassers actions? I made sure to photo the man before he left, along with the huge planters broken into sharp shards, which he threw over resulting in the breakage and hias legsgetting scratched. I wanted no one coming for CJ, so I took the photos of the guy from every angle,to show there were NO bite marks, just scratches from the pottery he broke, and the bamboo sticks that held some of the vines in the pots, which if he decided to use as a weapon against CJ, I would have had him dead to rights. CJ was limping badly, could put hardly any weight on his left front foot, at all, from the planter landing on his foot (still didnt slow him down while his adrenaline was flowing, though) but he is doing better now with previcox, and feeling better, its hard to keep a good man down. He usually swims for 5 hours a day, and now he is bored out of his mind, on rest, per vets instructions for another 5 days. He will be climbing the walls, as he is used to being active all day. :( When he couldnt put any weight on his leg,and could only walk by holding his paw up,and totally hobbling, it brought back some bad, bad memories....


marjorie

by marjorie on 14 August 2015 - 04:08

xbitetab- thats a great one too!!!! That one might go on my back gate- wonder if i print it out if I can get it laminated in a weather proof lamination! My sign is inside my house, on the side glass, facing out.

by xbitetab on 14 August 2015 - 04:08

Marj: We have three gates and all have padlocks on them 24/7. One of the signs we lost in the storm here last year was a favorite and have not found another one on Metal to buy

IT said

 

  IIf found here tonight , you will still be here in the morning ,

   BUT in a body bag waiting for the Coroner!!!!!!

 

lol   I live in the country and not in a subdivision. YOU cannot put that sign in a town or city house with Insurance Companies and state and city laws in place.  IT denotes you have knowledge of a biting animal ahead of time in your house or home.

THAT is how attorneys  make money .  SO no  sign is actually better than a warning of a biting dog.  Just one that says  " GSD lives here" ought to suffice in the city.


by hntrjmpr434 on 14 August 2015 - 04:08

Mithuna, no I did not know what you were referring to, even with the correct words.
Really interesting to hear everyone's responses, good thread topic.

As far as my dogs' responses, all but one would greet happily. Higher thresholds, would take a lot to poke the bear, so to speak. I only have one who would be weird, but shes a thinner nerved dog.


marjorie

by marjorie on 14 August 2015 - 04:08

The one on the gate says "Please keep gate closed- dogs in yard...". I did ask about the break in make his day sign. It doesnt say Caution, it doesnt say dog will bite or chase, doesnt say he is a guard dog- it simply says "break in make his day", so one can infer what they wish. If one broke into my house when Missie T was alive, it would have made her day- she would have had another person to kiss and play with... LOL!...it doesnt say attack dog or anything like that, so its ok. Now, in Florida, if you have a dog that could present a danger, you can get sued it you have NO warning! It varies state to state, which is royal PITA!

marjorie

by marjorie on 14 August 2015 - 04:08

and the padlock is a damn good idea!

by xbitetab on 14 August 2015 - 05:08

Yes, You are right.. I was gonna add , here in Texas in the county, not city, I have to have a NO TRESSPASSING sign on front fence and a PURPLE CIRCLE RING around one tree by sign...WHY that??? FOR NON ENGLISH SPEAKING PEOPLE. and a sign on back of property with a PURPLE RING around tree near sign as same in Front of property. UNBELIEVABLE how the invasion of private property has to be very PROPER>>or the Law SUITS follow any kind of confrontation by me or my dog. Maybe I ought to get one of these!






 


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