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susie

by susie on 16 August 2014 - 15:08

You should distinguish between "place" and "sell".
At least over here as soon as you sold something there is no "first right of refusal".
You may write it into the contract, but on court it´s irrelevant.


Cesna

by Cesna on 16 August 2014 - 15:08

Clauses as such are placed in the best interest of each dog... As most breeders care about the future and well being of their dogs/puppies, once they are sold or placed. If a person/family can't keep their dog/puppy for ANY reason, I would rather the dog come back rather than be placed in a detrimental or abandonment situation. It is not for my benefit, but rather for the dog.


susie

by susie on 16 August 2014 - 15:08

Cesna, I understood, but in relaity it´s not that easy. A lot of buyers simply don´t care
Right now it´s a big mess. I´d call the guy whom you sold Linus and search for the truth - sorry.


DenWolf

by DenWolf on 16 August 2014 - 17:08

Since, in USA, there are no breeding requirements in place to prevent "those kind of people" from owning/breeding/selling dogs and puppies, SOME of us voluntarily sell/place/ or "adopt" out otherwise very nice dogs that are, for whatever reason, NOT for "breeding" (or scamming others, for that matter.)

A SCH3 V-rated showline male adult would garner LOTS of interest from "those kind of people", especially if offered at a "adoption" price..  To circumvent these people from using the dog in a crooked manner, many of us have a special contract with a paragraph where the adopter agrees  NEVER to relinquish/sell/give away the animal WITHOUT first notifying the other party....there might also include a holding back of paperwork, or even a co-own (on paper only) to keep things honest.

That doesn't mean that they CAN'T do it, just that they have to first CHECK with the other, so that the poor animal doesn't wind up in a situation like the one back east in MA.

It's part of being responsible..even if you didn't breed the dog..there is a certain ownership one takes on when importing a dog..especially since the breeder overseas isn't in a position to do much about it.

While this method isn't going to stop EVERY crook or ignoramous out there from doing the "wrong" thing, it will make it much more difficult for them to be successful at it.

 

Christy, if you PM me the name and address of the person in Denver you sent this dog to, I'll drive by the house and see if it's there...  if you want me to.


by jaggirl47 on 16 August 2014 - 20:08

DenWolf, if you do let us know. Whether the scam artist was using Linus' image to scam people for money or he really did kill Linus, we will blow him out of the water.


Baerenfangs Erbe

by Baerenfangs Erbe on 18 August 2014 - 12:08

Same here, property laws are pretty clear. From what I gathered you can sue for breach of contract, but thats about it.


by jaggirl47 on 20 August 2014 - 15:08

One of his clients just verified she was forced to sign a nondisclosure agreement in order to get the registration papers for her dog that were promised months ago.


by bzcz on 20 August 2014 - 18:08

which makes her signing the non disclosure agreement null and void. 

She doesn't have to follow it.


kitkat3478

by kitkat3478 on 20 August 2014 - 19:08

Why in the world would someone be  asked to sign a  non disclosure agreement in a dog sale contract?


by jaggirl47 on 20 August 2014 - 20:08

He expressly forbids any customers to speak negatively in any way against his operation. It also directly forbids them from making complaints.






 


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