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by Prager on 14 March 2011 - 14:03
Yes all points here are well taken. You can skew social or political statistics by asking the questions same way but with different wording. But do not throw the baby with the bath water. Not all statistics are same and not all statistics are bad. Mathematical statistics and their scientific laws are an exact science. You can flip a coin and roll dice and get certain and exact statistical results with big enough sample every time. All cities are built around such exact and undeniable facts ( Las Vegas, Monte Carlo,...). It is pretty straight forward to see on the graph in the book mentioned that within every litter the heavier pups growing faster have significantly higher amount of HD. There are several studies done on this. Statistic in this case are hard to manipulate.
Really I do not see anything "goofy" about this. What is goofy is to argue science of a book and not to even read the book first.
I will throw something else here since we are talking about weight.
There are studies where it is proven that the hormonal balance of the female who is overweight and lacks exercise is skewed from a hormonal balance of the female who is active and thus not fat and in great muscle tone. The pups from the such mother in lesser physical condition has changed their hormonal balance and such mothers then have statistically higher probability of bad hips.
I can go on and on about this. There are genetics predispositions of HD which are environmentally triggered. Fast growth and heavy weight even in mothers and even in just born pups are such environmental triggers. Off course there are others too.
Prager Hans
Really I do not see anything "goofy" about this. What is goofy is to argue science of a book and not to even read the book first.
I will throw something else here since we are talking about weight.
There are studies where it is proven that the hormonal balance of the female who is overweight and lacks exercise is skewed from a hormonal balance of the female who is active and thus not fat and in great muscle tone. The pups from the such mother in lesser physical condition has changed their hormonal balance and such mothers then have statistically higher probability of bad hips.
I can go on and on about this. There are genetics predispositions of HD which are environmentally triggered. Fast growth and heavy weight even in mothers and even in just born pups are such environmental triggers. Off course there are others too.
Prager Hans
by Jenni78 on 14 March 2011 - 15:03
Yes, Hans. I was just reading an article in Time Magazine about this as it pertains to humans. So much more than ever thought it affected/influenced by conditions in utero. I don't see how the same wouldn't hold true for dogs.
www.time.com/time/covers/1101021111/
www.time.com/time/covers/1101021111/
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