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by Doppelganger on 23 April 2010 - 07:04
http://www.gsdleague.co.uk/OUR%20FUTURE%20PLANS%202010.htm
by Dingodog on 23 April 2010 - 09:04
Obviously change will have to occur over many years and many generations, but until it is started nothing can be any nearer to being accomplished. The last 40 + years have proved that. I have yet to find any publication of Reinhardt Meyer's speech following the Sieger unfortunately, although I understood it was to be published early this year. Is there any news on that? It would be useful for all to know how they plan to address the issue.
I don't think the SV could damage the genetic diversity of the breed any more than it already has frankly:
'Fewer bloodlines seemed to be available as the SV presidents concentrated increasingly on a handful of kennels and a smaller handful of lines'
This is not a matter of speculation, but recorded fact, so stating that the SV will not damage the genetic pool or genetic diversity of the breed is very much open to question IMO.
IMO the Sieger shows have done little to encourage breeders to apply independent thought to breeding strategies and consequently the genetics involved, and conversely much to encourage concentration on the same lines over and over. Everyone it seems wants to have the latest Sieger blood in their kennels, and on the pedigrees of the puppies they produce. So many good dogs have been overlooked as a result, and opportunities to freshen the gene pool overlooked.
Doppelganger:
by Videx on 23 April 2010 - 10:04
I await your well researched evidence to support your assertions above.
Am I correct in assuming you have none?
by Dingodog on 23 April 2010 - 12:04
I am not Doppelganger and have no other identities, except the one that you recently gave me and which I have adopted as my sign off for the time being, as I rather like it. In fact if you do YOUR research, I think you will find that Doppelganger is a breeder and judge? I seem to remember him mentioning judging - but I can't be bothered to trawl back and find out.
Now, to be specific - which assertions are you referring to?
The reference to the influence of Sieger shows is my opinion, as stated. Although the SV had concerns over it years ago, which is why they moved away from having a single victor. So please be specific and I will reply as best I can.
PP
by Doppelganger on 23 April 2010 - 15:04
My choice of name seems to have been quite ironic. Yet again I am being accused of being someone I am not, which is why I chose it in the first place. Keep guessing, you might get there in the end, but I doubt it, as you don't seem to have the intelligence to even grasp simple concepts, such as Dingodog has laid out for you.
by Videx on 23 April 2010 - 15:04
Doppelganger : my intellect is beyond question. Tour questioning of it simply illustrates your own stupidity.
Your silliness and lack of knowledge, coupled with your obvious lack of experience shows up in your postings, or you do an excellent job of hiding any ability you may have. Perhaps that is your forte. I have met far too many like you in my lifetime, people who try to appear knowledgeable and capable, but simply enforce their obvious limitations.
I won't waste anymore of my valuable time on the pair (or more) of you. Worthless trolls!
by noddi on 23 April 2010 - 18:04
by Dingodog on 23 April 2010 - 21:04
Videx
As always YOU avoid answering the question I put to you. You seem to have lost the inability to read too, as I did not answer no, I asked you to be specific, so that I can give you a specific reply - a simple concept as my 'doppelganger' states. I have noticed that when the going gets tough, you get going.
In fact, as you were the one making assertions about the SV in the first place - let me ask the same question to you - what well researched evidence do you have to support the assertions you made?
Videx you are right, your intellect (and attitude) is beyond question, you are undeniably the John Prescott of the GSD world.
As I said before, no one is asking you to waste your time on the likes of 'us' - please feel free to ignore. Stop wasting your valuable time and energy, as I am sure you are in such high demand to assist all those other breed clubs that were clamouring for your assistance.
by Dingodog on 25 April 2010 - 18:04
Just in case anyone was in any doubt about my 'assertions' about the SV and genetic diversity, the well researched and well documented source is Malcolm Willis himself in his book The German Shepherd Dog A genetic history of the breed.
Perhaps Videx suddenly remembered his basics and realised just where this (indisputable) information came from, since I don't think I have ever seen him run away so quickly.
by Videx on 25 April 2010 - 18:04
Dingodog: GSD
knowledge = nil
Experience = nil
Ignorance = absolute
A lot in common with Kennel Club
You silly insignificant pillock - check out my GSD knowledge & experience
(even that which is public knowledge blows you away)
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