by Scoutk9GSDs on 17 December 2009 - 01:12
by snajper69 on 17 December 2009 - 14:12
When I said that pray drive might not be required this was not with regards to protection training.
by Vikram on 17 December 2009 - 15:12
by Scoutk9GSDs on 17 December 2009 - 16:12
Wait......how does a dog know to chase something (for relief) when it gets stressed if a person isnt around to throw a ball for it? Man there has to be some stressed out dogs in the world.
How do dogs bite if they dont have prey drive? Fear? So if a dog didnt have prey drive and it was scared of everything then that dog would die because it would be too scared of the bunny to bite it for lunch. Right? Ok......I got it now.....I think.
by snajper69 on 17 December 2009 - 17:12
You feed them that's why, in a wild pray drive would be essantial for the dog to hunt.
"How do dogs bite if they dont have prey drive? Fear?..." yeah most of the time fear... thats where the defense drive kicks in. You saying that you will get a dog to bite without fear, if the dog has no pray drive? lol good luck with that.
by Vikram on 17 December 2009 - 17:12
by Scoutk9GSDs on 17 December 2009 - 17:12
Thanks for all your help. Im starting to get the idea.
by Keith Grossman on 17 December 2009 - 18:12
by freemont on 18 December 2009 - 19:12
I know the title of the thread was over-reaching, but you have to get folks through the door before you can make your pitch. Ultimately, what I am putting forth is the question of "prey drive" being over-accentuated as being a virtue in a "working" gsd.
On this board and elsewhere, it is repeatedly brought up as a selling point of a dog. Perhaps this is a fallacy as pointed out it is not what makes a proper protection dog- although it may be employed in the beginning stages of protection training. Perhaps what is more virtuous in the make-up of the dog is that inherited trait of what I referred to as "protective instinct" but is also called "defensive drive".
Malis are operatives of the crazy prey drive, yet the GSD should possess the protective instinct. It makes for a substantial difference in the character of the dog.
The prey drive does make a gsd run after things that move and make noise. The prey drive is visual and auditory. The hunt drive is distinctly different as it relies on olefactory. The hunt drive and not prey drive is used in scent detection.
So there we have it. Possibly it is Mal-speak (if you will) that is entering our lexicon in the gsd world- all this excitedness of the prey drive...
by 4pack on 18 December 2009 - 19:12
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