Main > Biospot vs. Advantix (28 replies)

by cprladie627 on 02 May 2007 - 17:05

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Can anyone give me their preference between Advantix and Bio Spot? I now use Advantix and have for a couple of years, but noticed on the internet that Bio Spot is sooo much cheaper. We have 5 dogs, and saving money is so important. Feel free to email direct to me if you'd like. Thanks in advance

by DKiah on 02 May 2007 - 17:05

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Biospot is a product that is absorbed into the dogs sytems whereas Advantix and Frontline are not.... the reason for the difference in price is pretty obvious. I have used Frontline happily for years but am thinking of changing to Advantix, just to change things up a bit. Where do you buy yours ?.. check out www.entirelypets.com or www.petvetdirect.com.. very good prices..often shipping incentives and somtimes coupons.... I have 7 dogs and often puppies, so i hear ya!!

by animules on 02 May 2007 - 18:05

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dogs.com also has decent prices for Frontline. We get the jumbo pack for extra large dogs then use a plastic syringe to dispence it based on weight. The larger the quantity the better the savings.

by Blitzen on 02 May 2007 - 20:05

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I've used biospot on my dogs for over 25 years, never any fleas, ticks or any problems due to using it.

by p59teitel on 03 May 2007 - 14:05

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I've also used BioSpot for 12 years and found it 100% effective against fleas and about 95% effective against ticks. BioSpot contains permethrin, as does Advantix. From what I've read, some dogs are allergic to permethrin and products containing that ingredient should not be used if a reaction occurs (never had any problem myself). Frontline is said to be spread over the dog's skin via penetration to the glands that secrete oil. If so, then it penetrates the skin in exactly the same manner as BioSpot, so I'm not seeing any particular advantage if skin penetration of a pesticide is a concern.

by LMH on 03 May 2007 - 15:05

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The subject of these products makes me crazy. I hate every time I open one of these vials and administer them--but, I keep doing it between May and Nov. Take a look at: http://www.drsfostersmith.com/pic/article.cfm?acatid=176&aid=281 Compare the active ingredients of BioSpot, K9 Advantix, and Frontline Plus. The average price per pill: Biospot-$4, K9 Advantix-$11, Frontline Plus-$12 The question of how they actually work has always been a bone of contention for me. Follicular transference vs systemic--I find it hard to believe it doesn't penetrate the skin (and, that goes for all of them). So, I can see why p59 came to his conclusions---if you compare ingredients. K9 Advantix and BioSpot say they repel mosquitoes (not ticks). A friend has used BioSpot for years with no problems. I've used Frontline Plus with no problems, and because of this fact, I'm hesitant to try anything new---just because you-never-know. Honestly, when did we all start using these vials, anyway. About, 10 yrs ago, yes? Personally, I would love to hear some of the ages of your dogs, and how long they've been on these products. No matter what--it's still poison. BTW--Anyone have a tip to recommend some natural substance, such as an non-poisonous oil, that would repel TICKS that can be rubbed lightly on the dog? I hate the ticks even going for a bite. Yes, they die with Frontline, but it still makes me uneasy.

by LMH on 03 May 2007 - 15:05

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I should have said a natural product to be used in conjunction with the Frontline Plus.

by Sunsilver on 03 May 2007 - 15:05

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AAAACHOOOOO!!! Dogs aren't the only species allergic to permethrin. I cannot be anywhere near it. It is also in many commercial insecticides, such as Raid. I found this out the hard way, when on a canoe trip, and my partner sprayed the tent with Raid before we went to bed. I spent most ot the night with my nose plastered against the door screen, struggling to breathe. If the skeeters hadn't been really bad, i would have slept outside! Any opinions on Revolution? My vet gave me a package of it when I had my new pup checked. It controls heartworm as well as fleas and ticks, but is HORRIBLY expensive! ($118 for 6 doses, which is a full year's supply here in the frozen North.)

by SchHBabe on 03 May 2007 - 15:05

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I am using Advantix now, but just switched recently. I no longer use Frontline Plus because from my experience it doesn't kill ticks as promised. When I was living in the pest-infested swampland known as Louisiana I always had to check my dog for ticks after a romp in the woods. He was on Frontline Plus year round. I would find adult ticks on him that obviously had been latched on longer than the 24-48 hours in which they are supposed to die. I always felt terrible about finding ticks already half bloated. Now I've moved out of state where the parasite count per sqaure mile is significantly less, but I'd still like to use the best possible protection. Does anyone living in a high pest zone have a product that works for fleas and ticks?

by djc on 03 May 2007 - 15:05

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Question: ? Maybe I'm wrong, but isn't Advantix FOR ticks??? Advantage is the product that is for fleas???

by Sunsilver on 03 May 2007 - 16:05

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Yes, that's correct, Advantix is for fleas, ticks AND mosquitoes! http://www.k9advantix.com/About-K9-Advantix.asp

by LMH on 03 May 2007 - 16:05

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djc-- Of course, Advantix kills ticks. But, it doesn't repel them. None of them seem to do this (much needed) initial deterrent. Who cares about Advantage? (LOL)

by p59teitel on 03 May 2007 - 16:05

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"Personally, I would love to hear some of the ages of your dogs, and how long they've been on these products." Max, D.O.B. 3-17-95. BioSpot since 1995. Otto, D.O.B. 4-25-96, d. 5-1-06. BioSpot from 1996 until death. Orbis, D.O.B. 3-8-06. BioSpot since arrival on 6-26-06. SChHBabe, I live in SE Massachusetts, which is the deer tick capital of the world (plenty of brown dog ticks too). No need to go into the woods to find ticks, as they are rampant on my property, especially after a wet spring. Every dog owner I know locally will occasionally pull an engorged tick off his or her dog regardless of what treatment is used, and I haven't heard of any product that is absolutely 100% effective against ticks. Max, the late Otto and I all tested positive for Lyme antibodies several years back but never developed the disease. I would like to attribute that to "outcross vigor" leading to enhanced immune responses in all three cases, but it is more likely just dumb luck. The dogs now get the Lyme vaccine, but I don't. I discovered what appeared to be a deer tick bite earlier this spring on the back of my leg but nothing ensued. And I did pull a brown dog tick off Max in March, which is several weeks ahead of when the ticks typically emerge. We had a very mild winter and maybe the ticks are ahead of schedule.

by LMH on 03 May 2007 - 16:05

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Oh, I get it----my reference to Advantix "(not ticks)". I was trying to point out in my feeble way that K9A could be misleading---Yes, they repel mosquitoes--but some might also think they repel ticks. Not the case.

by LMH on 03 May 2007 - 16:05

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Thanks for the dates, p59. Over 10 years is comforting knowledge. I lost one boy a few years back. He was 9 and had 7 yrs of dosage. My current boys haven't reached that 10-yr dosage that you have even surpassed.

by ColeHausGSD on 03 May 2007 - 17:05

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I switched to Advantix after using Frontline for years b/c I thought it repelled ticks also. I have found a few on the dogs and myself since beginning the Advantix so I'm totally pissed. I was told it repelled ticks also. Oh, NC seems to be the tick capital of the world. Our winter was very mild and I started seeing ticks much earlier than usual. Does anyone know what may repel ticks?

by beetree on 03 May 2007 - 18:05

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What repels ticks as in what type of chemical poison? I don't know or want that answer, but there are other ideas that won't poison your landscape. Keep your grass mowed, (they can't hide). Create mulch barriers between woods and lawns, (don't like to cross them). Keep deer and mice away, they are your biggest carriers, though this is (yeah, right, this is easier said than done). I also find that the "leader" of a group gets the most ticks, so pay special attention to whomever that may be. (The jumping impulse is triggered by the leader's movements). Of course, prevention is your best bet, check your dogs daily, as the tick needs to be in contact for 48 hrs to infect its host. We vaccinate all our animals for Lyme. Too bad they don't have one for people. And to find out who the REAL state tick capital is, check this out. http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dvbid/lyme/ld_rptdLymeCasesbyState.htm

by Blitzen on 03 May 2007 - 19:05

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I started using Bio Spot on my dogs in the 70's. It was called Spot-On then and was manufactured for insect repellant for large animals and was sold in gallon bottles. I worked for a large animal vet at the time; he and the drug rep calculated the dosage for a dog. I sucked up the dosage in an empty syringe and applied it as a stripe down their backs. Now it comes already packaged for dogs and it's a lot less expensive to use than the other repellants.I never saw one flea or tick on my of my dogs in the 30 some years I've used this product. I'ts my understadning this is not absorbed through the skin of the animal. I've tried natural products like eucalyptus oils and natural flea collars. None of them ever worked. If the first dog I ever used Bio Spot on was still alive he'd be almost 40 years old. He died at 14 1/2, and it wasn't due to fleas or pesticides LOL.

by Birdy on 03 May 2007 - 20:05

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Blitzen. I too used Spotton for cattle and it was my father's choice in his clinic but it is a different class of insecticide. The active ingredient in Spotton is Fenthion. I loved it as I would buy a small bottle for $30.00 and it would last me a couple of years it was applied down the back and an adult dose was 2cc's. If one wants the best control for ticks get in touch with your local pesticide dealer (probably not in CA) and get a quart of Amitraz and make a solution and spray your yards. Amitraz is sold through vets as Mite a ban for demodex mange so you can save loads of money buying it this way. I'm not a fan of flea and tick collars but Preventix collar is made of Amitraz and it works quite well better than spottons and is about 12 dollars for 2 or more months of control and I haven't ever detected a strong smell emitting from them either. Birdy...

by p59teitel on 03 May 2007 - 20:05

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"We vaccinate all our animals for Lyme. Too bad they don't have one for people." My mother participated in one of the early LYMErix trials a number of years ago. It was eventually approved by the FDA, but the vaccine's effectiveness was never shown to be higher than 80% or so and it was pulled after questions about its safety were raised (and it turned out to be less profitable than its maker thought it would be).

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