Main > Xray opinions on WL female (21 replies)

by Ramage on 31 December 2012 - 19:12

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2 year old WL bitch went in for x-rays today. Opinions would be welcome. Vet and I both agree the dog's left hip (right hip on the screen) is smaller than the other. What will OFA or the SV think in regards to that? I know OFA can be quick to call it "bad"... should I send them off to the SV instead?

Elbows were also done, but since these are large images I'm only adding the hips. There are 3 xrays below.




by vonissk on 31 December 2012 - 20:12

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Fair maybe--JMO I( don't think the one being smaller is going to be as big a deal as how shallow the sockets are. I know nothing about the SV and their practices so I can't offer anything regarding SV vs OFA.

by dbeden01 on 31 December 2012 - 20:12

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Dear Ramage

My suspicion is that the one hip merely appears smaller than the other because the dog’s pelvis is tilted (one side is closer to the x-ray plate than the other, causing magnification). This mostly happens when dogs are not sedated for hip radiographs; which would also explain the really poor positioning. Neither the SV nor OFA should accept these radiographs. In order to receive the most accurate assessment you are best off to have the films repeated under standard sedation and good positioning, IMHO. It’s quite possible that these hips will read out SV normal / OFA good or fair if positioned correctly.

Daniela

by dogladyj on 31 December 2012 - 21:12

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My bet would be OFA good. 

by Nans gsd on 31 December 2012 - 22:12

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If you send this in as is;  possibly fair.

by Ramage on 31 December 2012 - 22:12

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She was sedated, believe it or not. This was my first time using this vet after my old vet doubled his prices.

by Ramage on 31 December 2012 - 22:12

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I hadn't thought of the tilted pelvis causing the hip to look smaller. That is something to consider! Perhaps I will wait and see what OFA rates them as. If it is not what I want, I will try a different vet and retake the x-rays.

by BlackthornGSD on 01 January 2013 - 00:01

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The pelvis is tilted in all of the xrays and the legs are not correctly extended. I wouldn't send these xrays in--I'd get new films.

by clc29 on 01 January 2013 - 00:01

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Ramage....I am by no means an expert and still learning the finer details of X-ray reading but I agree with Blackthorn...do not send these in.

The positioning is not correct......knees are not extended evenly.......pelvic tilted......legs not straight.
I think the depth of the sockets look OK... the head of the right leg might be slightly smaller but can't really tell for sure.





by B.Andersen on 01 January 2013 - 01:01

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Re take them . Positioning is not good.

by mirasmom on 01 January 2013 - 01:01

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Here is some x-rays of one of my bitches,  we had a tough time positioning her
she had her pelvis tilted, so one hip looked bigger than the other, she still 
passed the evaluation for a normal rating...
The gray film is her second offical certification of fair, and the blue one is pre-limb Good....
Ya....Ya...I know crappy x-rays, but the gray one was while she was awake and she tensed up on the table,
we had to pry her body to lay flat, she was like "what the heck are they doing to me?!"




by mirasmom on 01 January 2013 - 01:01

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Oh, your girl will pass with a Good or Fair from ofa....

by hexe on 01 January 2013 - 01:01

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You paid for OFA-quality films. 

That's not really what you got.  These should be re-shot so the pelvis is squared.

by SitasMom on 01 January 2013 - 02:01

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the angle of the rotation of the legs in the first xray makes the femeral heads look to be different sizes.
the second and third xray are total crap, but I would send in all 3 at the same time becasue they give different views.

IMO they will be graded as good.

by Ramage on 01 January 2013 - 02:01

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Thanks everyone! I feel better having read these comments. I knew the positioning wasn't the best, but never attributed it to the smaller head. It did have me worried, but if OFA doesn't give a good rating I will just re-take them. Time to find another vet What Smile

Anyone know of a good one around Virginia Beach?

by Ramage on 01 January 2013 - 03:01

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BTW, Mirasmom - interesting how alike the x-rays are between your girl and mine! Definitely seems to be the tilted pelvis. I just hope it wasn't a total waste of $300

by mirasmom on 01 January 2013 - 03:01

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Ramage,
 I have many x-rays of my dogs both Shepherds and Labs, 
some of them better than others.
Sometimes I think the dogs hips don't look great and they go & get a rating of good,
I wonder if  what I see is politics or my lack of knowledge trying to decifer these hip x-rays,
why some look crappy & go good while others look good and get a rating of dysplasticWhat Smile

Did you send these in?
If so, I think if you did, they get a rating of Good!

Happy New Year!!!

Good luckClown

Let us know the outcome.........Wink Smile

by Ramage on 09 January 2013 - 18:01

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For those who are wondering, she went OFA Good :-)

Luckily, OFA didn't seem to be too subjective over the positioning.

by mirasmom on 09 January 2013 - 18:01

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That's awesome Ramage!!ClownShades Smile

Thanks for getting back to us!!

I love looking at hip x-rays.Clever

My pre-limb x-ray was $430.00 cause she was sedated, 
the official one was $240.00 as she was awake.

Thank you for sharing!


by Nans gsd on 09 January 2013 - 19:01

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Yeah  Clown

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