Main > Constipated puppy 5 days old any advice? (20 replies)
Constipated puppy 5 days old any advice?
by dogshome9 on 02 December 2012 - 03:10
|As stated, my puppy has become constipated, poo is hard and dry, what can I give her?|
My thoughts were to see if she will take some cooled boiled water,
give a little paraffin oil > olive oil
I also have a Microlax enema, could I give her a tiny dose?
by Siantha on 02 December 2012 - 03:47
|i gave pedialite stuff to my friends puppy who was super constipated i think she was about 14 days or so. and it helped a lot. is the puppy getting enough to eat from mom? is she getting enough water so her milk has more water in it ?|
by hexe on 02 December 2012 - 04:19
|You can give a small amount--about 0.5 ml--of paraffin oil, mixed in with her next feeding, and you probably should increase the amount of water in whatever formula you're feeding. If need be, you can add the paraffin oil to each bottle feeding, but if it is necessary for more than two to three days despite increasing the water in the formula, it may be a side effect of the amoxi the dam is on.|
by hexe on 02 December 2012 - 04:27
|Also, as long as she is still passing stool, I'd hold off on the enema, unless she's really straining when she passes it...in that case, you can also use the paraffin oil as an enema, or use distilled water; use a small, blunt tipped syringe or soft rubber bulb syringe [lubricate end of either w/mineral oil or water-based lubricant] and infuse no more than 2-3 ccs...and make sure it's warmed up to body temperature.|
by dogshome9 on 02 December 2012 - 04:58
|Sorry I should have said, puppy was a singleton delivered by C section mom gave no signs of possibly going into labour so it was decided to do c section.|
Mum on Amoxyclav and probably due to the lack of hormones? anesthetic ? the puppy was feeding from mum & became lethargic , weak & had lost weight.
After I fed her during the next 8 hours she put weight back on and was full of energy again so I returned her to mum ........... then within the next hour she regressed so I took her off mum and have been feeding for the last 3.5 days.
It has been an awful long time since I bottle fed a newborn puppy ......
everything else is good, very keen to feed, I have already diluted her milk with water and stopped the egg yolk and yoghurt, hopefully that will work ...... if not the I will go with the paraffin oil.
Thank you hexe
by Siantha on 02 December 2012 - 05:16
|i never like the puppy milk replacer stuffs because it always binds the puppys up. there is a mix of eggs goats milk and some other stuff i can get the recepie we use it at the shelter/vet here for puppys and i have used it on my guys and they do just like on mom.|
by ziegenfarm on 02 December 2012 - 05:22
|under normal circumstances, mama dog will stimulate the pup's circulation and elimination by licking and rolling the pup.|
she isn't just cleaning the pups anus, but stimulating it as well. you can also do this for the puppy with a warm, wet
handtowel. often a c-section will disturb mother nature and rob the dam of her maternal instincts. giving the pup
adequate stimulation should help keep the bowels moving. best of luck.
*****does the dam appear to be producing enough milk? sometimes that is a problem also with
c-sections and/or single births.
by Hundmutter on 02 December 2012 - 05:58
|Is this the pup whose mother was licking her too much ? And hadn't let |
down any milk ?
by J Basler on 02 December 2012 - 06:09
|Evaperated milk and add water works well.|
by hexe on 02 December 2012 - 06:11
|dogshome9, I wouldn't eliminate the egg yolk or yoghurt, just add a bit more water to the mixture. Sorry I misunderstood--I thought you were supplemental feeding her, but that she was still nursing off of her mom, too. Since she's not nursing at all, then, you just need to add more distilled water [or boiled tap water, if need be]. Make sure you're using either whole or evaporated goat's milk, too--NOT condensed.|
Since this isn't your first time whelping pups, I'm sure you know about the whole needing to stimulate the anus and genitalia to trigger their bowel and bladder excretion, but for those who aren't familiar with it, I figure I better include this for future reference if this thread comes up during a search:
Newborn puppies do not have the ability to evacuate their bowels or bladder on their own for the first weeks of life; their mother has to stimulate this function in the pups by gently licking the anus and the genitals of each puppy, individually. The owner of the female may not notice this happening, because the female continues licking until the pup urinates and defecates, and she ingests the urine and stool as she does this--which is why you never [or almost never] will see spots of urine or pieces of stool lying about in the whelping box while the puppies are still unable to walk around.
If a puppy is being raised on a bottle or stomach tube and getting a commercial or home-made formula, however, it's up to us to do that stimulation--even if the pup is in with the mother at times, because the bitch often does not want to ingest the stools created by anything other than her own milk. Obviously, not done by us via licking! Instead, use a soft piece of cloth that you've made damp with warm water--NOT hot [you want body temperature, 95-100 degree F]. Gently stroke the puppy's genitalia and anus with the damp cloth, folding the cloth over to a clean section as the pup defecates to keep the puppy clean; generally speaking, it works best if you stroke from the genitals up, instead of the other way around, just for hygienic purposes...nobody wants a puppy with a urinary tract infection from poo entering the urethra. Continue until the puppy stops passing any urine and stool.
This has to be done after EVERY meal and after they wake up from napping...usually, the easiest schedule is to just do it before each feeding, and again right after the feeding. You'll need to continue this until the pups are able to relieve themselves on their own...about 2 weeks or so.
by dogshome9 on 02 December 2012 - 06:17
|Yes Hundmutter, this is her.|
After the C section I thought that with the puppy suckling the milk would come in but there was very little and what was available I believe was making the puppy ill.
I guess rather like a bitch that has mastitis the milk is not good for the puppies, not that mum has mastitis, thank the lord I don't need that.
Since feeding her the goat milk, egg yolk & Greek yogurt the puppy has thrived but she is just constipated, poo is like small, dry granules .. though the colour is normal.
We posted at the same time :)
Yes, the goat milk is whole, fresh but it has been frozen as my supplier hates for it to be wasted.
I will continue with the egg yolk and yoghurt but I will add some boiled cool water to the mix if you think it best.
She is being stimulated both before and after meals, she is a ravenous feeder and I stop her half way though the feed just to slow her down, I am using a human premi baby bottle & teat.
Edited to add comment.
by hexe on 02 December 2012 - 07:14
|dogshome9, yeah, I saw that we crossed each other in cyber-space. |
I would have been surprised if you hadn't been doing the stimulation, since I know that despite so many firsts in this week, it's not your first time @ the rodeo...just figured better to include it for when someone new does a search here on baby puppies, bottle-feeding puppies, etc., in case they need that bit of information too.
Even with the frozen fresh goat's milk, it is good to add water, as the freezing process does remove some of the plain water in the milk and the longer it's frozen, the more water is drawn out of it. Nothing wrong with using it, mind you, you just need to do a bit of reconstitution with it. That should do the trick with your single baby! Glad you have another litter of the same age on site, too, because once the pups are old enough to get around by themselves, this little girl is going to need those other pups so she can learn proper dog language and social skills!
by yellowrose of Texas on 02 December 2012 - 08:03
I have always used a tablespoon of white Karo syrup in any formula I made for supplemental use..that IS IN A BATCH MADE UP FROM ONE CAN OF EVAP GOATS MILK, HALF PURIFIED DRINKING WATER AND EGG YOLK
THE kARO SYRUP IS TO MAKE THE BOWELS MOVE.
aLSO ANY CLOTH, may cause irritation so I used cotton balls....to stimulate instead of a wash cloth... even on humans the genital area and genitals can get irritated very fast with continued stimulation so use cotton balls ..
keep them tighly in bags for hygiene..
Distilled water has no value...use purified drinking water, that has been osmosis filtered.
If not use a Britta with a new filter and make sure it has set one day before if it is city water..
Distilled water has nothing in it..
Feed the bitch much raw liver added to her food and lots of fresh water , filtered but osmosis and not distilled.
Antibiotics always constipate even humans./
any drug and C section causes her system for several days to be off key..;
Add the Karo and keep on feeding the little angel
by EuroShepherd on 02 December 2012 - 10:33
dogshome9, are you including karo syrup in your pup's formula? If not, you should add it, like YR says, it's good for constipation, it helps draw liquid into the bowels and softens the poo.
When I handraised puppies, I had them on a very frequent feeding schedule, during the daytime it was feeding every 60 to 120 minutes (I tried to keep it around 90 minutes) and every 1 to 3 hours at night. More frequent feedings help keep the bowels moving and keeps the pup better hydrated, as well as improves the absorbtion of nutrients and thus, more weight gain.
At least 2 feedings every 24 hours consisted of just pedialyte (this was with tube-feeding, can't get pups to voluntarily nurse on pure pedialyte.) If you are only bottlefeeding your pup, then 3 of it's feedings should be a higher amount of pedialyte in the formula every 24 hours. Also, stimulate before and after each feeding, and gently palpate/massage the belly at least 4 times a day.
by CMills on 03 December 2012 - 00:44
|My vet recommended a couple drops of castor oil orally to keep them from getting constipated when I had orphans, it works like a charm|
by dogshome9 on 03 December 2012 - 00:47
|Well, after adding cooled boiled water @ 5mls / 20mls goat milk and I didn't have Karo so I added 3 drops of olive oil per feed and she has done a poo after each feed, We (me) are doing the happy dance.|
Didn't think I could be so happy over POOP .....LOL.
Thank all for your very helpful advice ....... You guys rock.
edited to add todays weight = 748gms @ day 6.
by Shandra on 03 December 2012 - 03:24
|I always add a small amount of karo when I have to bottle feed. In a pinch and no Karo, regular syrup will suffice a very small amount.You can also put it right on her tongue.|
by dogshome9 on 03 December 2012 - 10:18
|Question? Karo Syrup is that Corn Syrup ...... Glucose syrup ?|
I am not able to find Karo here.
by kitkat3478 on 03 December 2012 - 10:46
|Karo syrup is corn syrup. I always have it in the cabinet for no other purpose than "animal formulas". Be it puppy,raccoon, or any other baby that might need a helping hand.|
Karo is basicly thee brand name. Just be sure you don't use a high fructose syrup as a replacement. No need for all the extra sugars.
You are doing good 6 days in.
I myself wsould not hesitate to let the pup nurse off the other female. I have mixed up yorkie to shepherd, and shepherd to yorkie pups and moms over the years when a pup has needed that little bit more than their natural mothers were giving.
Best of luck keeping that baby going.
by starrchar on 03 December 2012 - 13:02