Training and Obedience > "Just a Baby" ......! (12 replies)
"Just a Baby" ......!
by Vixen on 01 July 2012 - 14:52
|Only to discover we are talking about a strapping 2 year old strutting/jumping dog. (I will make no apologies for personally not using or liking the use of referring to a Puppy as a Baby, as neither would I do this in reverse). However, time seems to stand still with what seems a large percentage of Dog Owners, and the "Puppy" can be any age up to 2 years.|
From experience I have noticed it is equally often used to express or excuse the poor behaviour, or lack of manners of said Puppy/Dog - and let us remember this is not the Puppy/Dog's fault - the dog can only be as good as the Owner guides and trains.
by Hundmutter on 06 July 2012 - 10:28
|Cracked up at the image of someone referring to their small child as a 'puppy', but yes I agree with you, some folks|
do that and it is often an indication of shall we say a 'lax' attitude to training and their responsibilities.
by Vixen on 06 July 2012 - 11:22
|Hundmutter, Very diplomatically described by you |
I think there is sometimes an emotional muddle between human and canine. The dog as it sussed, but the human ...... oh dear
by Sunsilver on 06 July 2012 - 12:22
|The current trend, spearheaded by people like Britney Spears, is to think of canines as surrogate children. The pet industry is encouraging it, because it can be VERY lucrative (lots of dog clothing, toys, etc.). One local doggie daycare/grooming salon even says on its webpage.."they're not dogs, they're kids with fur!"|
And, of course, the trainers reap a fortune helping to correct the misbehaviour this sort of attitude has fostered...
by magdalenasins on 06 July 2012 - 21:41
|Disagree, depending on maturity rate I consider a dog a puppy until 18-24 months.|
by alboe2009 on 08 July 2012 - 08:54
|You might be thinking of or envisioning possibly maturity rate mag? But I would say puppy till 12 mos.|
by Hundmutter on 08 July 2012 - 10:46
O no, I'd agree 24 months, in GSDs and depending on breed quite a few others; but that's not the issue. If you have a 2 yr old, or nearly, and its still a pain in the a, don't use its youth as your excuse for not being in more control of it.
Someone I used to know, Army Royal Vet Corps background, would argue that Shepherds are not really grown up and out of all puppyish things until they are FIVE ! (And with some I agree with him !)
by susie on 17 July 2012 - 18:05
For us a "puppy" is a dog not older than around six months old, an older one is a young dog.
by fawndallas on 18 July 2012 - 18:03
|I fully agree. Any dog, any age, going into the public should be well behaved (kids too for that matter). If not, then it is time to go back to the drawing board, correct the issue, then go back out to the public. Even during the socialization stage, I expect my puppies to already have some basic manners; all of mine know "sit" and how to walk on a leash without pulling my arm off or tangling my legs by their 2nd round of shots.|
It is because of (I WILL say it) lazy owners, that more and more places are saying "no dogs." There is a post somewhere on here about a family in Georgia who is struggling to find any place to take their dogs, even to the park or an outdoor market. It does get very frustrating.
by RuffianGirl on 23 July 2012 - 15:46
|it really depends on the breed what age is considered mature........18-24 months is usually accurate, but not all, some breeds take 3-5 years to fully mature and get out of those puppy stages. HA, my friend had a lab that didnt fully mature until 4 or 5 years old! It just takes time and patience and consistency is the most needed ingredients. :)|
by Markobytes on 23 July 2012 - 22:14
|There is a difference between a puppy age up to about 4 months, which can be compared to baby/ toddler and and a puppy past this age to maturity which can be compared to child/ teenager. You would be wise in making these comparisons in the way you treat the puppy in it's different stages. That being said, a dog is not a human and you diminish the relationship between the two if you can not make that distinction.|
by zdog on 05 September 2012 - 17:18
|I say baby all the time when referring to a young dogs mental make up concerning protection work. I've never been mistaken for Brittany Spears either.|
and I refer to my older bitch as a sweet baby all the time. She is, deal with it :) She acted like a puppy till she was 5 and it had nothing to do with ill manners.
by VKGSDs on 05 September 2012 - 19:47
|I had a 2 year old dog (I just sold) and called him a puppy because he acted very much like a six month old. However he's never been out of control. In fact he's always had the best recall, instantly drops on out/aus command, etc. But as far as his play style, how he works in protection, etc he has been very slow to mature and really is a puppy in the head. I do have high expecations for my puppies though. Even 8 week olds are not allowed to terrorize my house, be mouthy, and act completely out of control.|