German Shepherd Dog > nerves of steel; neither girl flenched at gun fire (18 replies)
nerves of steel; neither girl flenched at gun fire
by fawndallas on 17 June 2012 - 23:11
|So proud; neither of the 9 week old girls flenched at 22 cal gun fire that was 6 feet away. I know we have a ways to go, but it is a start. One actually started looking for the noise.|
by SitasMom on 17 June 2012 - 23:13
by macrowe1 on 17 June 2012 - 23:14
by dantes on 19 June 2012 - 08:28
|Unless they are deaf....|
by fawndallas on 19 June 2012 - 18:58
|I do not understand, Dantes. Can you please clarify what you are referring to? Both girls noticed the sound. One then went on about her business, the other started looking and going towards the sound.|
by Sheesh on 19 June 2012 - 19:05
|I think Dantes is suggesting that the distance was way too close. I understand you being happy with the result, but considering their age, and the fact that a dog's hearing is many times more senstive than ours, the distance should have been 3-4 times that. Theresa|
by fawndallas on 19 June 2012 - 19:13
|Ok.....I will do that. I did not know. |
From a gun shy perspective, I am used to hunting dogs which are normally within 8 feet of the hunter. This was not a set up test for the girls; an opportunity came up and I took advantage of it to see the reaction. I was just proud that there was no fear reaction, especially considering they were 9 weeks and are starting the 1st "fear" phase.
by fawndallas on 19 June 2012 - 19:15
|I also moved them out of range (55 ft) for the louder gun strickly to protect their hearing.|
by Sheesh on 19 June 2012 - 19:19
|Well, I know exactly zero about conditioning hunting dogs. :-) and I can't speak for anyone else, just from my own experience conditioning for gun fire. :-) I do understand your happiness about their reaction. We should all be so lucky :-)|
by dantes on 19 June 2012 - 20:05
|Yep, I meant it was too close :)|
by yellowrose of Texas on 19 June 2012 - 20:10
| I am chuckling.|
My adult dogs now get mad when neighbor brings out the huge gun to practice with in his back lot..he is about a half a block from my land...the dogs want to go get him ....
they think like I do...why in the world do we have to shoot a 30 06 or a big high power gun at 10 am in the morning for 30 minutes..ALL the deer in the woods run off, the birds scatter for hours and I get woke up and my dogs tell him to please stop.
Good TEST for you...keep up the good endeavors...If you need wood for them to climb over or build jumps with I have three trees down here ..come get all you want.
by fawndallas on 19 June 2012 - 20:44
|Hmmm, never thought about having trees to climb over....Let me think about it.|
I still have 2 more rounds of shots before they leave my property......May have to do a Fall trip though.
by fawndallas on 19 June 2012 - 20:46
|Does climbing over large ice chests count? I tried that to keep them confined to my game room this weekend. Lasted about 5 minutes and the puppies came out laughing (stupid human, did she really think that would stop us?).|
by alkster2002 on 19 June 2012 - 23:15
|Dont pat yourself on the back yet ....... what ever made you fire a gun that close .............. evidentally not to knowledgable about the do's and don'ts of imprinting ...... if that continues you will create a problem ........ Greg|
by melba on 20 June 2012 - 00:09
|A better way is to do gunfire at a distance while they are eating. That is the way I have always done it...|
by alkster2002 on 20 June 2012 - 01:18
|Melissa ...... I totally agree that is one good way of doing it ........ Greg|
by fawndallas on 20 June 2012 - 01:37
|Confused, but I am reading up to see if I missed something. |
I understand too close based on age for hearing, but imprinting? Are you referring to being too close for any dog?
This was not a rapid fire test. 1 shot; neither puppy flenched. Both happened to be in my lap, playing with a toy. Both dogs looked up; one went back to playing, the other got up to find the sound. Doesn't sound like a bad imprint to me.
Next shot was with a louder gun and both puppies were in the porch, 55 ft away. Same basic reaction. Bad imprinting?
by melba on 20 June 2012 - 01:53
|You want the puppies to associate gunfire with the best of positive things. It's easiest (for me, anyway) to put down a|
pan of mush for 4-5 week old puppies step away and fire blanks. They associate gunfire with food, which is never a bad
thing. Food is a necessity, so gunfire is just normal, the same way eating is normal.
You did not imprint. You tested the waters to see what you had :) An imprint is an association between one action or
thing and another. Clicker training the click means you did good, reward is coming. Scent training, you find dope, explosives,
bone (or whatever else you are trained to find), indicate and you get your toy, rope, ball, kong etc....
Hope this clarifies some :)
by fawndallas on 20 June 2012 - 02:30
|Ahh.. Now I understand. Thanks Melba|