Training and Obedience > Anyone using the new neck tech collars? (11 replies)
Anyone using the new neck tech collars?
by brynjulf on 29 March 2012 - 01:54
|Anyone using these new collars? I'm getting too old to try and get these darn old school pinches on crazy beasts. I used to be able to jam them (the beasts) in between my knees and hold the scruff till I got the collar on the wiggling maniacs but the neck techs look so easy that I am contemplating getting one. Reviews good and bad please! Thanks!|
by Kaffirdog on 29 March 2012 - 10:27
|I have one and found it ineffective and fell apart in use so not impressed, though it does look nice. I use the type with a snap together fastener and I also have a micropinch that not only has the snap together fastener, but a nylon martingale fitting.|
by Donnerstorm on 29 April 2012 - 23:19
|Kaffirdog, do you mind sharing where you get your collars? They sound much nicer than the above mentioned struggle. Esp since that particular struggle at my place is almost entirely had with younger dogs, the older ones know wether you like it or not you have to sit there until she gets the collar on no matter how long it takes. LOL|
by V L A on 30 April 2012 - 17:06
|I have one, it is sooooo much better then trying to get a pinch collar on!! works wonderful! I have a power house GSD import that looks at my horses as though they are decoys!!|
by Jeffs on 30 April 2012 - 20:40
If getting the pinch collar off and on is the problem, Herm Sprenger has a pinch collar with a quick release. Google "Herm Spregner Quick Release" to find one.
by brynjulf on 30 April 2012 - 23:18
I've used them before and they have a tendancy to pop off unexpectedly.
by Chaz Reinhold on 01 May 2012 - 03:02
|I just tell the dog "sit". That usually makes it easier to put it on. I use this super secret method because the dog should already know how to sit before you even introduce the prong.|
by brynjulf on 01 May 2012 - 03:35
|Sooo when you get an 18 month old dog in who has never been on a leash, never had a collar on and never been off its property before you do what? Put a flat collar on? nope we know that doesnt work, they slip off. you use a kennel slip noose? nope the dog is choking itself to death spinning in circles and leaping all over you. The dog doesnt respond to food either cuz of course it wasnt raised here and has no idea cookies come from your hands so use what to capture the beast? It would probably take your arm off by accident any how as it has never been taught manners and is just running around snapping ( not vicious just stupid puppy I'm running around with my mouth open stuff) A martingale would work but we still have to get it on....oh ya we may as well use the prong so we can stop the silliness in one go .|
by Chaz Reinhold on 01 May 2012 - 03:53
|Lol. I am a dog whisperer. No dog is a challenge for me. Tsst...tsst. I was talking about my dog, but you are correct. I don't have to deal with 18 month old criminals, just my own perfectly trained and owned dog.|
by brynjulf on 01 May 2012 - 04:03
|Nah they arent criminals, just typical kennel dogs. Have one here that just about knocked himself out cold this am. He had never been on grass before and kept running head on into the trees..... It was sad and funny all at the same time. You would have thought snakes were biting his feet when the grass touched him, then he had a full on puppy spaz ( all 80 pounds of him) You would think that after shoulder checking a tree he would have learned to run around it, evidently it is going to take the lunk head a few sessions. Put a collar of any type on him now???? unlikely he has to figure out where his legs go first. Then there was the sliding down the steps but that is a whole nother story.|
by Kaffirdog on 01 May 2012 - 07:47
|I got my snap fastening collars from a dealer in UK, but they are Herm Sprenger so should be availabel from them I guess. I don't use a prong collar often and had mine for years.|
by Hundmutter on 05 May 2012 - 13:57
My lad was just like Brynjulf's when he came to live with me. He was then 17 months. He is now 9.5 years. I have never used anything except a flat collar with him; when I first got him and he was being a complete ass (both UK & US definitions !) I TRIED a headcollar, and I TRIED a check-chain; he quickly proved himself in danger of taking his eyes out, AND running away, on the first; and choking himself to death on the second (and yes it was on the right way up).
I hate pinch collars with a vengeance (and yes I have used one a couple of times for other people & their dogs); also can't stand the aesthetics, that bling look with huge chains n prongs does not suit GSDs IMO.
I just put an ordinary collar on, one notch tighter than normally recommended - then they do not back out of them - and used voice, food, a smack in the chops, distraction to toys, a long line, anything and everything, until he started to calm down and listen. And Sit to be saddled up.
Then - eventually - we went off and got him Silver KC Good Citizen. And I don't even consider myself that good a trainer.
So don't dismiss what Chaz says too lightly. These things can be done, when you find the right methods to suit the individual dog. I have not yet seen the kind of collar this thread is about; but if I had access to one and had a dog in
front of me it might work better for, I would certainly use it. Although I do wonder about its mentioned propensities to disintegrate and/or fly open.