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A discussion on kennel blindness by darylehret on 10 March 2012 - 18:49 |
| Please describe what you think it means and give examples. |
darylehret by brynjulf on 10 March 2012 - 18:58 |
| Overlooking obvious faults in your breeding program be they conformational, or temperment. |
by Licanantai on 10 March 2012 - 19:54 |
| Beside the above... breeding what YOU like in a dog, instead of what the breed should be. |
by Ace952 on 10 March 2012 - 20:33 |
I think every breeder breeds what they like in a dog. They have their idea of what the breed should be and make enhance on certain things they feel are important. Hence there are many different breeders using different lines. Everyone has their idea of what the breed should be. Wht they breed is their "interpretation". |
Ace952 by darylehret on 10 March 2012 - 20:37 |
| So, if you meet the breed sandard, is there still such a thing? |
by Ace952 on 10 March 2012 - 20:50 |
| that is the thing, no one can agree on what the breed standard is as everyone has their own interpretation. |
by beetree on 10 March 2012 - 20:57 |
| I'm pretty sure it (the standard) is written down somewhere. At least a handful of somewheres, lol! I thought kennel blindness meant turning a blind eye to any genetic faults that are produced within certain kennel "lines". Especially if they were winners first, and genetic tragedies, after that fact. Like hemophelia, for an example from Canto. |
beetree by oregontnt2007 on 10 March 2012 - 21:43 |
I am going to plea the 5th on this one....... :) so I removed my post & won't comment on it, but thank you for the information, good post. |
by SitasMom on 10 March 2012 - 22:05 |
| kennel blindness definition - "all of my dogs are perfect and the judge doesn't know what he's taking about". at shows, its so common to hear this from so many different owners. |
by yellowrose of Texas on 11 March 2012 - 00:26 |
| Daryl: IS kennel blindness what you have because you bred Nyx two times now and have no health or ofa and she is not registered.. AND now have 12 pups on ground and 5 still left from her last litter. So why are you asking this Kennel BLINDNESS question ? SO you think you breed with no rules that we should accept it.. NYX is just now two in November and you have two litters by her? EXPLAIN what you mean here by Kennel blindness and if it is worrying you because you feel differently as you breed for you only ? I thought you sold a few and surely you do not plan to keep all 12 of these dogs in your back yard and the others you still have.. Hutch is not OFA either is he ? So I am very confused as to why you posted this thread?? Yr |
yellowrose of Texas by darylehret on 11 March 2012 - 00:31 |
| So it looks like there's a few different meanings to the term and the way it's used. |
by oregontnt2007 on 11 March 2012 - 00:48 |
| I am not sure what is going on with this thread? but I stand corrected... my bad I STRAYED plz forgive me........ :) < crawling back to my corner with head & ears down w tail between legs> LOL back on to the thread... & wont stray again |
by darylehret on 11 March 2012 - 00:59 |
| YR obviously can't stick to the topic, or hasn't yet found a way to put my name in context with use of the term. It's probably not in the dictionary, so who's to say what's right or what's wrong with the way you use the term. Some people seem to try to use it like a derogative insult, kind of like "backyard breeder". |
by sachsenwolf on 11 March 2012 - 01:21 |
| Back on topic, I've always thought of "kennel blindness" to mean what happens when you look at your dogs all day and can't step back and look at them objectively compared to the breed as a whole. Example: You breed for large bone and eventually to you your dogs look normal, not large boned, but yet everyone else that sees them think they are. Or you like extreme angles so you start picking the overangulated pups even though you don't intend to, but because TO YOU the dogs you have in your kennel start to look like they lack. Just what happens from looking at your dogs/kennel all the time if you don't see enough contrast regularly. Probably part of the cause for such extremes in the breed. But I also understand that others would say it is when someone thinks what they are breeding is the best, their dogs can't be improved upon, or their practices are acceptable, when the majority would disagree. To me this is just ignorance, cockiness, or close-mindedness, not actually being "kennel blind." |
sachsenwolf by Mike D on 11 March 2012 - 02:08 |
| I don't know about you guys but I sure am glad all the breed's faults are in those other lines and not mine. I don't know who breeds all the faults into our breed but stick with me. I'll fix it. |
Mike D by brynjulf on 11 March 2012 - 02:10 |
| sachsenwolf you said it perfectly! |
by oregontnt2007 on 11 March 2012 - 02:16 |
| @ wolf.... <~hey I am learing here..... I like your post, full of insight yet it really made me think. But I also understand that others would say it is when someone thinks what they are breeding is the best, their dogs can't be improved upon, or their practices are acceptable, when the majority would disagree. To me this is just ignorance, cockiness, or close-mindedness, not actually being "kennel blind." so what happens next with these kennel blindess or ignorant breeder's? What road do they head down next? Are these big time breeder that have this or smaller scale breeders? What I dont get is, every Judge is different so in there mind they might like big boned gsd & at the next show that Judge like slope? It really seems like you have to follow the Judge that likes your stock inorder to win with what you have....right? learning can be so hard..... |
by sachsenwolf on 11 March 2012 - 02:20 |
| Thank you Bryn. To add, I think it's a natural human-nature thing, this kennel blindness, which is why serious breeders will ask for others to help evaluate their dogs. Judges probably get this as well... watching the same type run around a ring all day. Not to mention, they are probably biased towards ones that look like their dogs or what they wished their dogs looked like. |
by ShelleyR on 11 March 2012 - 02:39 |
| I'm guessing breeding a truly ugly, untitled male to a not-even-registered female who seriously looks like a mix breed, ummmm, qualifies. |
ShelleyR by Sirius Black on 11 March 2012 - 04:10 |
| Let's please keep this on topic. thank you. |
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