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by missyfly96 on 26 September 2011 - 14:09

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5 month old puppy barks throughout the night in her crate.  She wakes us up all hours of the night.  I have tried covering the crate, thinking she must see the other dogs walking around it has not helped.  I tried moving her in my room (but she makes too much noise and I still can't sleep).
I tried keeping all the other dogs out of that room, she still barks.  She is completely potty trained and I've tried taking her out in the night when she barks, but then a little while later she barks again.  Any ideas how to get her to stop.  Sometimes she may hear the slightest little noise and bark other times she just barks.  Even if she gets exercise she barks 3:30-6 in the morning off and on about every 1/2 hour or so.  I've tried ignoring it thinking when she figures out I'm not coming she will stop.

If she is in her crate and we are up or it is during the day she does not bark at all, just at night when we are all sleeping!

by trixx on 26 September 2011 - 15:09

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i think you have a barker and there is not much i think you can do, i would put a muzzel on her when you want to sleep. i dont know what else to tell you , i would think she would grow out of this but some dont. have you had this puppy a long time of is this a new pup? some do take months to stop this type of behavior, could it be anzeity?

by missyfly96 on 26 September 2011 - 15:09

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I have had her since she was 2 weeks old.
I co owned the mother, which I had, she went back to the breeders to give birth, and the litter and mom came back to me at two weeks old.  Mom is now back with the breeder and I chose to keep her.  Do you think I should let her sleep with a muzzle on?

by gsdlvr4life on 26 September 2011 - 15:09

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I had a girl who did that and i turned some music on at night and she was fine. It was i guess just to quiet for her and freaked her out. I covered her crate in my laundry room,turned on the local radio station and turned the lights off and closed the door.
Worked like a charm for us!!
May be worth a try to see if it makes a difference

by Donnerstorm on 26 September 2011 - 15:09

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I have also done the radio thing, helped  a little.  If she is barking in the crate she obv wants some type of attention.  When I have one I smack the top of the crate loudly and say nine in a very firm voice.  And keep the other dogs away from her crate, mine don't make a peep in the crate and on the rare ocassion they do they stop if I say Don't make me come down there.  But certainly do NOT take her out to go potty, esp if she has already gone, that teaches her if she makes noise she can get out.  Also start putting her in her crate for short periods in the living room where she can see everybody else out having a good time, when she makes a noise correct her and don't let her out of the crate until she is still and quiet.  Takes some time but it works.

by missyfly96 on 26 September 2011 - 15:09

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I only took her out to potty in the middle of the night once.  Once I figured out that was not her problem I did not do that again.

Also, she spends time in her crate (short periods) in the day when the kids are playing and other dogs are out and she does not bark.  Only at night.

So maybe it is too quiet and I'll try the radio suggestion.  I don't know why I did not think of that one (probably lack of sleep)!

Thanks for your suggestions everyone.

by Pharaoh on 26 September 2011 - 16:09

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Try one of those sleep machines that has natural sounds like the waves on the ocean lapping on the shore, rain falling, water falls, deep woods, and even the human heartbeat. 

What I got for Pharaoh was one of those teddy bears with heartbeat.  I attached it to the corner of the crate.  He cuddled up with it.  He was also next to my bed with my older dog sleeping next to him.

Mariah liked the sleep machine and it was great until she chewed through the cord.

Michele

by Soli on 26 September 2011 - 17:09

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You should try to walk your dog a liitle bit before crating him. Also give your puppy, in the night some valerian,it is packaged usually into capsules. Based on its pharmacological mode of action, valerian root has been demonstrated to possess sedative and anxiolytic effects. It is natural, no chemicals. In addition you must keep her in the crate until he accepts it and stops barking.

by yellowrose of Texas on 26 September 2011 - 18:09

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   YOUR pup is trying you, and you must become Alpha.. DO NOT put a muzzle on her for this bad behavour..IT is a bad behavour only,

   Try what Donnerstorm said 

   Get a stick , preferably one that won't break. I did it once and the wooden spoon broke and the dog laughed.

   Get up and walk to the  kennel slap it on top hard and say   NINE

  DO it again  in 30 mins...

   for a week or so and I bet she will stop
   
   You must do it hard and loud...YOU must become ALPHA..

    MAke sure pup is walked and pottied before lights out.. DO not cater to her/him
    PLAY  music  from a station that is  Classical or soft music, or a MIX radio station...
     MY pups are born to music and have music all their life...day and night..\\

   Also try a  raw knuckle bone  at night .
 
   NO toys, no food  just raw knuckle bone for her boredom. Pup will grow out of it, but somehow she thinks she is getting to you.

    MY working line bitches do talk and scream at me and they are older, when I go past their kennels outside and do not let them out...but never at night ..I have had many a pup try the barking bit.  A stern command   nine or phooey...do not use no...it won't work..Save no for the command of danger or something important..

YR

by missyfly96 on 26 September 2011 - 19:09

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Thank you Yellowrose, I will try that along with the music.
She is definitely walked and pottied just before I go to bed.
She does already have a knucklebone in her crate at night though.
It is like she sleeps a few hours and then decides I'm up so everyone else should be also.
If she hears the slightest noise she barks and sometimes she just barks.
I definitely don't want this to continue or became such a habit it can't be broken.

by SitasMom on 26 September 2011 - 19:09

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yr give good advice........

did the same with one of mine 2 nights ago and she's been quite ever since.

 

by LynOD on 27 September 2011 - 01:09

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Oh my Wacking crates and yelling and threatening.  How about retraining the crate and creating value for being in the crate.  Crate games make a dog very happy to be in their crate as you have established a history of reinforcement for it.  Susan Garrett has a DVD called crate games.  I have used this with my pup and she loves her crate. Sleeps in it at night with door open does not come out until I release her in the morning when I get up.  I think the positive route gets quick long lasting results. JMHO.

by yellowrose of Texas on 27 September 2011 - 02:09

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   No ONE SAID  to YELL and scream and Wacking crates.
   The poster said pup only does it at night , in middle of night. I assume the dog like crate.
    THIS is a bad behavioural problem.   DOGS are like kids. When they get it in head I want something at 3 am in the morning and can disrupt the whole house and you get up and fret over it..dog won. NOW we have to correct the bad behaviour.

  I assume the poster has no problem daytime in crate according to her posts.
   
  I said to take a  stick and hit the crate  with a command  a very stern ALPHA,  hard and loud is not  whacking and screaming or yelling.. 

    If I had said   tap and softly whisper   NINE    would the dog even look up   NO it would  not.
    
    Now if that is screaming I never knew that!
    I do not scream  hit or  yell at dogs!
   
     How in the world do you play   CRATE GAMES in the middle of the night?
   
    THIS person is not being ALPHA
  
     A  hard stern COMMAND is not screaming or yelling. It is with RAISED voice above normal talking voice.   

     THE reason kids donot mind human parents today is the parents are not ALPHA
   
      They let the KID be alpha

      YR

by Jamille on 27 September 2011 - 03:09

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It sounds like this one needs the lights to actually be left on .  Sometimes if they can't see anything then every little noise sets them off, because of their natural insecurity at this age.  Every dog/puppy has their own maturity levels.  If leaving the lights on works, then you could slowly phase to a night light or something. 

I would also agree with some of the other suggestions like :
-keeping the radio playing
-Femur bones to chew
-Stuffed toy to cuddle with

Good luck, let us know what works.

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by yellowrose of Texas on 27 September 2011 - 04:09

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Dogs can die with choking toys in crate.

 NO toys no rawhide.

Dog choke on parts of stuffed animals
 
Most young pups chew

That is why you use a  raw knuckle bone or round raw bone.

no choke collars no toys.

no balls..anything can be chewed into pieces and get lodged in throat or esophogus and you are asleep.


YR

by LynOD on 27 September 2011 - 13:09

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You don't play crate games in the middle of the night you actually train the behavior you want during sessions you can train at your convenience.  And no offense YR  dogs are not like kids they are dogs. It probably would only take a week to create value for the crate and have a happliy crated dog.  Just saying that I find as a behaviorist you get alot more mileage out of behavior strengthened through reinforcement than you do for behaviors taught through corrections.  Not that it can't be done that way it is just not my prefered metthod of training and I have found this out by using both methods, and the behaviors I have taught and strengthened through reinforcement hold up better than the ones I taught through use of corrections.

I would also suggest to the poster that the dog may require more exercise to get them tired.  A tired dog is a happy dog and every dog's energy needs are different.

by Donnerstorm on 27 September 2011 - 13:09

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Lyn, we did not say whack the dog, and crate games aren't going to help much if you had read the Op the dog does just fine in the crate during the day.  When my pups whined in the crate I whacked the top of the crate, I didn't scream at the pup and nobody told the OP to scream at the pup there is a difference between screaming and being assertive, and my dogs all like their crates they will go in them on their own periodically to take a nap or if for some reason we forget to crate one when we go to bed, the door is not closed and the dog stays in the crate. In this case the dog is training the owner. I make noise you get up.  I don't know what kind of behavior you expect from your dogs but when I ask mine to do something or not do something I expect it to be followed without question. I do use positive reinforcement when training my dogs, I have NEVER had to use an E collar, etc, my dogs are very well behaved and slapping the top of the crate must not be too traumatic bc my dogs chose to be with me constantly even when not told. Next time you are going to bash the advice given maybe you should read the first post entirely.  BTW when dogs are teaching other dogs how to act I have yet to see one play a crate game with it,so what would make you assume it is horrible to the dog.  I don't have to yell at my dogs in the crate in the beginning during crate training I did the radio and the night light, however if you kept it up I slapped the top of the crate and in a firm voice said NINE! if it was during the day they received a reward when they laid quietly I let them out for a little bit and we played but I'm not playing at 2am, if my dogs who do like their crates are making racket in the crate now all it requires is me saying that will be enough thank you, or me just clearing my throat loud enough that they can hear it.  So slapping the crate obv works and has worked for more than one person that has posted.  Games are fine but I would prefer to not be outsmarted by my dog!

by Donnerstorm on 27 September 2011 - 13:09

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One more thing Lyn I just read every word posted on this thread where in the world did you get that ANYBODY threatened the dog? Are you saying you NEVER correct your dog? If that's the case I can tell you who runs your house.  You can equivocate dogs to children they are not children but the same principals apply, if there is never a correction your child or dog are going to have no respect for you and they only have to listen if they feel like it, because nothing happens if it doesn't.  Do you use a pinch collar or tell your dog no well then you have used a correction.  At some point all the behaviorist will stop trying to tell the trainers how to do their job.  Only positive reinforcement does NOT work, that would be like you asking your child to clean their room every day for 3 weeks and not saying a word when they chose to ignore you and then giving them a snickers bar the one time they clean it.  It is people with those theories that decided every child that plays a little league game gets a trophy for just showing up, so there is no real reward for discipline, and excelling in anything. Life isn't a little league game neither is raising or training a dog you don't get a trophy for just showing up! 

by LynOD on 27 September 2011 - 13:09

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Excuse me Donnerstorm I can read and I was not bashing anyone else's advice mearly expressing another way of doing things.  I was refering to the comment in your post "Don't make me come down there" as a threat and I am sorry I said whacking the crate when you clearly said smacking I apologize.

Donnerstorm says:
"When I have one I smack the top of the crate loudly and say nine in a very firm voice.  "

Frankly I don't care how you train your dogs, I was only suggesting a different opinion.  Which I believe everyone is entitled to.

by LynOD on 27 September 2011 - 14:09

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 I can't say I have never used corrections, however I am reworking how I see and train my dogs and I find that by using reinforcement correctly I don't need corrections, because my dogs want to please me. Denying them access to reinforcement is much more effective than any correction I can give them.  They learn at a young age what choices earn them access to their favorite things.  Make the right choice and you earn access.    And you have no idea how my dogs behave so don't even go there.  My dogs can be off lead any where publicly with people and other dogs around and won't leave my side, my dogs live and breath for my attention. I am the keeper of the fun so to speak and my dogs respect me and want to be with me.

I would never dream of telling you how to train your dog I believe the poster asked for suggestions I offered mine.  


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