Main > Top Showlines with good protection phase (412 replies)
by Ibrahim on 22 May 2011 - 21:22
|They look wonderful, the one on top looks a bit stretched, lol.|
by darylehret on 22 May 2011 - 21:30
|That's only the first half of the litter, there were 10 in all. 1 sable and 1 dark male, 2 sable females and 6 dark black & tan.|
by Ibrahim on 22 May 2011 - 21:39
|Hopefully you shall not regret the cross with a good show line, as I know you follow up on what you produce at your kennel maybe we get some insight on their drives and their working ability as they mature, on this thread or in a new separate one, all the best with this litter.|
by darylehret on 22 May 2011 - 21:45
|Might be difficult, since I'm not raising the litter myself. But I will get one pup from it, to raise for a while (8-12 mo.s or so). I'll try to develop and maintain good relationship with the LE and SAR pup owners.|
by Jacko on 23 May 2011 - 02:58
by Dog1 on 23 May 2011 - 10:40
|What about Vando Moorbeck? He was one of the dogs identified in the search. Does anyone know anything about his offspring?|
by djc on 23 May 2011 - 18:04
Vando and his siblings are definately ones that I watch for in a pedigree. He has proven himself as a good work producer.
by djc on 23 May 2011 - 18:23
|Dog1 Said " How about the Kaluv daughter Vogue. First in her class in the ring and temperament to beat the band. Give this girl a national level trainer and she's the next universal siegerin. "|
Thanks so much Randy! Vogue IS with a German National Level trainer that usually only takes working lines, AND he has been on Germany World Team as well as been a helper for the BSP. They have been impressed with her from day 1, as the long trip to Germany did not phase her a bit and she was immediately ready to rock and roll. I wanted only the very best I could find for her and I know she will achieve much. I think she deserves to have the chance to go as high as she can and this is my wish for her. I will take her as far as she can go and if this includes Universal Siegerin and Schutzhund National competition then so be it! Can't wait to see, but putting the foundation on her myself I see plenty of potential to do just that.
Take a look at her pedigree:
by Ibrahim on 23 May 2011 - 18:41
|Vogue has in her pedigree|
Triumph Gucci, Quartz dei Templari, Amigo vom Belgier
Cello von der Romerau
Ghandi von Arlett
Tell vom Grossen
Uran vom Wildsteiger Land
Ulk von Arlett
Looks like some one was doing in depth research since quite sometime and put it into actual design
by Dog1 on 23 May 2011 - 19:03
|She has Hillo too. When you see Hillo in there, the dog could have an edge. I've seen some wicked stuff with that dog in the pedigree. Check out who bred to him and you'll begin to get a list of breeders that breed for working ability.|
Good luck with her. I'm confident she will live up to your expectations. Put me on your puppy list when you get a litter from her.
by Ibrahim on 23 May 2011 - 19:19
|Wow, Randy wants a puppy from her offspring, that says a lot.|
by Ibrahim on 23 May 2011 - 19:30
VA1 CAN SGR Hillo de Marne la Vallee
Is that the dog Randy?
Interesting piece of information, I wonder where from he got the work ability/strong character from !! Maybe it's that he has the good old dogs close in his ancestry.
by Dog1 on 23 May 2011 - 19:33
If you hurry, you may be able to get one too.
I have no doubt what I said about her will come true. You will see her as Universal Siegerin in a couple years.
Let's see who Debby breeds her to. Miro while she's in Germany.... maybe. She's strong enough to carry her work through even a weak male. Will Debby double up on the working genetics or try to add to the structure? Both are excellent now..it could go either way. I think I know which way she will go....
by Ibrahim on 23 May 2011 - 19:36
|I don't think if she can, Debby will deny me a good puppy from her offspring, I know she would love to help me make a good start here in Jordan.|
by Dog1 on 23 May 2011 - 19:42
That's him. Check the peidgree. See any of the dogs on your list?
Hillo was back when Tracy was mentoring with the Maarue Kennel in Germany. Interesting kennel. Placed equal empasis on conformation and working ability. They came from a working background.
Around 2000 they has a descendent as a US national champion in the show results and the working results. Ellen got a standing ovation when she did Fokus' offleash at the sieger show. Very nice people.
by Ibrahim on 23 May 2011 - 19:46
by Dog1 on 23 May 2011 - 19:50
|This topic is really old news.|
Here's a link to a thread from 2004.
by Red Sable on 23 May 2011 - 19:53
|The absolute best dog I ever had was a grandson of Uran. The other half of the pedigree was American lines. He was everything the standard called for in temperament and structure IMHO. I always credited Uran for him, maybe I wasn't far wrong.|
by Ibrahim on 23 May 2011 - 19:58
|Looks like Bullinger did many breeding with Hillo|
Ule v Temar
Teela v Bullinger .... Hillo
by Ibrahim on 23 May 2011 - 20:42
Uran was one of the best of all times, and I can't imagine you being wrong, no Mam.