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Training and Obedience > Girl Video of Helper Work (30 replies)

by Vikram on 09 April 2011 - 19:04

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IS helper work a male dominated area or do we have women doing helper work?


Can someone share a video of women doing helper work if there is any out there?


cheers

by VomMarischal on 10 April 2011 - 20:04

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My trainer's daughter got the decoy of the year award from the police officers' association. She was 19 (20 now).

by Vikram on 10 April 2011 - 22:04

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any videos?? Just interested to see the work.

by VomMarischal on 11 April 2011 - 04:04

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Doesn't seem like I should put stuff up without her permission. I did post one before and Jeff said I was going to get the girl bitten, which wasn't COMPLETELY true...

by Siantha on 11 April 2011 - 05:04

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im going to start training for it. we only have one helper in our club who comes regularly so i might as well do it.

by judron55 on 11 April 2011 - 13:04

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Anne Kent...best female helper in the US...possibly the world! Better than most males!!!

by steve1 on 12 April 2011 - 14:04

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I see nothing wrong is Girl Helpers, but one thing make sure you are fit for you will need to be so, it may look easy but it takes a toll on a Helper after a while and fitness is paramount, Make sure you get a good tutor, a bad or inexperinced helper can ruin good Dogs
Steve1

by VKGSDs on 13 April 2011 - 00:04

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I second Anne Kent.  She has many videos on YouTube.

I always have to chuckle about the "fit" comments.  I've seen so many guys that looked like they are/were one catch away from blowing a gasket doing helperwork.  I've also seen some "old" guys and some really young guys doing excellent work.  Age and outward appearance or how physically fit we might judge someone to be aren't all that matters.  I'm a girl an used to be a gymnast.  Not a lot of people can try to tell me what it means to be "fit", but....I have no interest in doing helperwork.  I'd rather have a good helper with a sprained ankle working my dog on a back tie or something like that than a marathon champion or Michael Phelps doing crappy work.

by Vikram on 13 April 2011 - 02:04

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this thread is not about your personal favorite helper. I asked if it is a male dominated area if they are no women doing helper work accept it and say so. One or two flukes does not really prove the point

by Slamdunc on 13 April 2011 - 03:04

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Vikram,
You obnoxious little twit, you asked: "do we have women doing helper work?"  Judron and Jackie were polite enough to answer your question and VKGSD's told you were to find the videos.  And that is how you respond to them?

On the rare occasion people take the time to post on your threads a simple thank you will do.  Why should anyone here feel the need to prove your inane point for you?  

Let's start a topic:  Vikram what dogs have you trained and what experience do you have doing helper work? 

If you actually had any experience doing protection work or actually working dogs you'd know the answer to your question.

 

by Vikram on 13 April 2011 - 04:04

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you need to start learning to read and e=write proer English Grammar  read what I have written you moron

by steve1 on 13 April 2011 - 07:04

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Vikram
 I guess you are referring to me one letter wrong i was called away from the computer as i was typing so i did not check it before sending it,
Nothing wrong with my Grammar get your own correct before you shout off and who are you calling a Moron for what reason I read your Post and others,
My reply was okay and correct just your lack of brains in an empty head to understand it.
OH' i made a mistake you are hiding behind a Computer when you spout off, You can do that okay .
So Bugger of Jerk you are not worth the space replying to on here other Guys have told you so many times before but you are to thick for that to sink into your numb brain
Steve1

by VKGSDs on 13 April 2011 - 14:04

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Vikram, my response was to Steve's comment regarding women being "fit" enough for helperwork.  Since I just happen to be a women, and in my Schutzhund club we are ALL women except for two men, I think I am allowed to comment on why women would or wouldn't try helperwork and whether fitness has anything to do with it.  In MY experience it has nothing to do with women feeling they aren't "fit" enough or strong enough but that we just don't have much of an interest in doing it.  Most of the women in my club can run circles and backflips and walk on our hands around the guys.  For some reason, men always seem more interested in learning helperwork and that's just fine with me.  I personally do not do anything unless I can do it at a high level.  I don't have enough hours in the day to dabble in all the things I have a mild interest in and I'm just not committed to the amount of time and energy required to actually become a halfway decent training helper.

To me, sex, age, and the perceived level of physical fitness are not what is important for a good helper.  A good helper is a good helper whether it is a skinny young female or a fat old guy about to have a heart attack.

And like I said, Anne Kent has a ton of videos of herself doing helper work, and they are training dogs too not just fancy trial work.  She is well know and well respected.

by steve1 on 13 April 2011 - 15:04

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VKGSDs
When i mentioned Fitness i was not just thinking of Girls doing the Helper work, I was talking about Males as well.
It is no use thinking anyone can just put on the gear and start doing Helper work. That will never happen, although i have only ever had one go, To old now i am afraid for that work But you must be fit to stand the work which looks so easy but is certainly not Helpers on here will back me up on that i am sure,
Plus as i said a bad helper can ruin a Dog more so a young Dog learning, A good Helper can bring a Young Dog along in leaps and bounds
I know two young male Helpers over here early last year, Both failed the test and exams Physically. The Judge said they were not strong enough although they looked fit enough at the time,
However one of those Guys did a lot of Running and some Gym work to toughen himself up. He recently passed his Exams and Physically was okay he is now a certified Helper in Belgium
That is what i am talking about, But Yes' Girls can do the same but not just put on a suit and be a helper NO' NO one can do that.
Steve1

by judron55 on 14 April 2011 - 14:04

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There is a huge difference between being a trial helper and a training helper! Anne is no joke...she can also explain what she is doing...another great attribute. PLUS, she KNOWS German Shepherds. Anyone working with her is blessed. I've learned that dogs need to see all kinds of helpers....good and bad....just like training helpers need to see all kinds of dogs:-) The problem is when someone becomes a trial helper....they think they are a training helper....NOT!

by steve1 on 14 April 2011 - 18:04

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Ron
110% correct
Steve1

by Sheesh on 21 April 2011 - 01:04

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Definitely still male dominated, however, women I believe are becoming more and more interested. I know of one female certified helper, and our trainer has been trying to convince me to prepare for certification, but I am just not excited about getting certified. I like to help our own group when needed. :-)
Theresa

by ziegenfarm on 22 April 2011 - 05:04

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ron,  yes

by Samba on 22 April 2011 - 13:04

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Of course, it is male dominated. My money is on Anne to kick your hiney though! :^> I don't know very many people interested in learning helper work, male or female. But, a female can certsnly do it very well.

by JWALKER on 27 April 2011 - 03:04

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"One or two flukes does not really prove the point"

Vikram...I do not get it.  Are they flukes because they are women?  Perhaps you need to take a look at some of the women that have opened the doors for thousands to walk through. 

Opha Mae Johnson - the first female Marine

Valentina Tereshkova - the first female in space.

I could go on and on.  The point is that are these women flukes just because they are the first to do it.

And just in case if I am wrong and they are not the first to do it...it does not matter.  Someone paved the road and that does not make em flukes. 

Vikram my wife would call you a sexist pig...and I would have to agree.


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