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by mollyandjack on 04 April 2011 - 03:17 |
| well, of course it's the best, it's science-y! they inject science right into it. makes it taste just like chicken. |
mollyandjack by LadyFrost on 04 April 2011 - 13:10 |
| I feed Kirkland Lamb and Rice...good ingr. and good price $23.00 for a 40 pound bag.....i also feed raw so it's the combination, plus salmon oil... Costco is the best! |
LadyFrost by laura271 on 04 April 2011 - 13:20 |
| We feed our 9 month old GSD Acana Wild Prairie. http://www.championpetfoods.com/acana/show-product.php?formulation=phfd She was originally on TLC since that was what the breeder used and the food is made locally. (http://www.tlcpetfood.com). However, she always had loose stools, had way too many movements (!), and was always ravenous. Switching to Acana made a dramatic difference very quickly- her coat became really soft and shiny, even though we feed her 1 cup less she isn't ravenous any more, and it cut her movements by half (now firm). She also gets some raw beef (bones and meat) and boiled eggs since my in-laws have a natural farm (ie. not certified organic). |
laura271 by kaoboy on 04 April 2011 - 20:04 |
| beef is bad for dogs.. maybe swtich to ground turkey? or just chicken legs raw? |
by Jenni78 on 04 April 2011 - 20:28 |
| Beef is bad for dogs, eh? |
Jenni78 by ggturner on 04 April 2011 - 20:59 |
| Ladyfrost, Isn't the Kirkland the Diamond brand? We feed Diamond Naturals Chicken and Rice. |
ggturner by Jyl on 04 April 2011 - 21:45 |
| Kirkland is made by Diamond. |
Jyl by Pharaoh on 04 April 2011 - 22:27 |
| Thanks Laura, Acana has really good ingredients-and...... no flax! I hope I can get a bag nearby. I like Origen Regional Red for mixing with GreenTripe.com excalibur mix. I would love to have a good chicken kibble to mix with chicken quarters. Thanks again for the hot tip. Michele |
Pharaoh by HighDesertGSD on 04 April 2011 - 23:29 |
| I think there is quite a bit of sterotyping in dog food. I do not have high regard for experts who shun chicken by-product meal as inferior to chicken meal, for example. Many food experts are not rational. Often a food, a part of a animal for food, is not fit for human consumption for attitudinal reason without scientific basis. Why is some cooked fecal matter undesirable? Wild dogs eat prey animals, shit in the guts and all. Alpha dogs in particular eat more shit in a large prey animal than beta dogs. |
by Jenni78 on 05 April 2011 - 00:19 |
| High Desert, depends what by-products they are. They can be ok, or highly inferior to meal. I don't feed by-products in a dog food, but I feed raw parts that would be deemed by-products sometimes. Why would you say by-products are NOT inferior to meal? |
by jamesfountain98 on 05 April 2011 - 01:15 |
| In dog kibble, bi products and chicken are both inferior to meal because of the water content. If you exclude the amount of water in the ingrediants they might be a lot further down in the ingrediant least if soley based on mass |
by laura271 on 05 April 2011 - 13:08 |
| I found this website a useful place to start in terms of understanding the difference between whole meat and meal. http://www.dogfoodadvisor.com/choosing-dog-food/about-meat-meal/ and a calculation that you can do to take moisture into account when calculating percent protein in kibble or canned food. http://www.dogfoodadvisor.com/choosing-dog-food/dry-matter-basis/ I was surprised that a person commented that beef wasn't good for dogs. My dog doesn't have a problem eating it and I like knowing that the meat comes from cows that my in-laws raise (treated humanely and are fed only what my in-laws grow; same for their chicken eggs). It's another reason that I switched to Acana- I like that they use free-run chickens and are supplied by local farmers. (.... and they are Canadian!) |
by steve1 on 05 April 2011 - 14:49 |
| This thread is supposed to be about Kibbles yet Raw comes back into it, And here we have someone saying Beef is not good for Dogs another elsewhere says Pork is not good for Dogs, Really funny some Kibbles are Beef so i guess those are no good for Dogs, So all in all Dogs must like us Humans must cut back on Red meat products for there health just as is practised for Humans All in All our Dogs are in deep deep Poo Poo. What a load of twaddle is put on here sometimes  Steve1 |
steve1 by laura271 on 05 April 2011 - 17:44 |
| With the utmost respect and good natured humour - I feel that many threads ultimately end in a discussion of the pros/cons/menus of feeding raw. Shrug- it just shows how passionate people are on this topic. As Steve1 (and other commenters) aptly pointed out- there is a lot of misinformation available so folks need to do research before they feel comfortable in their choice (kibble or raw or both). I feel that I don't have a deep enough understanding of canine nutrition to feel comfortable feeding raw just yet but I'm sure that I'll get there. |
by Ruger1 on 05 April 2011 - 18:03 |
| laura271... I feel uncomfortable too in feeding raw only...I just purchased a book that is helping me get a better understanding of the nutritional requirements of my little beast...lol.. I prefer to feed a natural diet that includes fresh whole foods prepared at home so I know what is in it...I also believe kibble is good to assure that any nutrients I missed are getting incorporated in his diet... It is my opinion that VARIETY is the spice of life....I have been adding canned salmon, cottage cheese, and some yogurt to his kibble over the last few weeks and he loves it...He has a beautiful coat that is just getting shiner all the time.... Deanna...: ) |
Ruger1 by kaoboy on 05 April 2011 - 18:37 |
| my beef comment. im going to clear it up, i said beef is bad for dogs due to i use to give my other shepherd raw beef with kibbles. i switched to raw ground turkey. his weight looked better and coat nicer. i didnt say it will kill your dog. i said it was bad for him. due to ground beef being more fatty then ground turkey. i feed good food, but i have to see how much they weigh how there stool is etc. so i didnt like the raw beef, so i say its bad. |
by ShelleyR on 05 April 2011 - 19:12 |
| I've said it before... I've been feeding TOTW almost non-stop since Aug. 2009, rotate formulas every 3-4 mos., and I have been very happy with it. This is T, http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=123658 at over 10 1/2 yrs old now 6 mos. after major surgery. The photos were taken Sunday evening. He gets TWO cups a day, while little Xena eats about 1/2 cup per day. Their coats are very, very nice, shiney and never dry, their energy levels excellent (my old boy still loves to play). If I were feeding a lesser quality food they'd need twice that much. My younger GSD's did very well on 3 cups/day, even when working and swimming daily. Its more expensive than many popular dry kibbles, but what one pays in cost per bag is made up in the reduced quantity necessary to keep the dogs in top condition. Their coats are so shiny they look wet, reflect the blue skies above. Hard to tell in photos taken at dusk. I haven't so much as seen a soft stool from even one of my dogs since December 2009, even while traveling cross-country for 2 1/2 weeks.   I love you Xena, but I'm keeping my tennis ball.  |
ShelleyR by kaoboy on 05 April 2011 - 21:51 |
| thats nice. but i have to know, why are you playing fetch at a funeral yard? kinda disrespectful dont you think? |
by ShelleyR on 06 April 2011 - 05:05 |
| Actually Sutter Cemetery is a happening place for joggers, yoga practice, dogs, picnics, kids playing ball... The residents don't seem to mind, nor to the visitors to their graves. Its as much a huge park as it is a cemetery, and a lot of folks' favorite place in town. |
by HighDesertGSD on 07 April 2011 - 04:25 |
| http://www.hilarywatson.com/chicken.pdf This article is informative in explaining why chicken by-product meal is NOT inferior to chicken meal. If you read carefully, you may think that in some way the former is actually superior. |
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