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CZECH LINE HIP SCORES
by katesgillkennels on 13 January 2011 - 00:15
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What is the highest hip scores you have ever seen in a working Czech line German Shepherd !
Be honest now ,thanks
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by vtgsd on 13 January 2011 - 01:18
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This link should help you.

http://www.cmku.cz/soubory/dokumenty/345_potvrzeni_o_rtg_vysetreni_na_dysplazii_kycelnich_kloubu.pdf

http://www.vetklinika.cz/tisk-protokolu/protokol-dkl.php

Oops! LOL! I miss read your post completely:-))) I went off the title! LOL! Duh.

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by SitasMom on 13 January 2011 - 03:47
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For hips best is   A/A
HIPS........
Klasifikace / Classification
A = Bez příznaků dysplazie kyčelního kloubu / No signs of Hip Dysplasia
B = Téměř normální kyčelní kloub / Near normal hip joints
C = Lehká dysplazie kyčelního kloubu / Mild Hip Dysplassia
D = Střední dysplazie kyčelního kloubu / Moderate Hip Dysplasia
E = Tě¿ká dysplazie kyčelního kloubu / Severe Hip Dysplasia


For Elbows best is 0/0
ELBOWS
Klasifikace / Classification of radiographic evaluation
0 = Bez pøíznakù dysplazie loketního kloubu / No signs of elbow dysplasia
1 = Mírné pøíznaky dysplazie loketního kloubu (osteofyty do velikosti 2 mm kdekoliv v loket. kloubu)/ Osteophyte formation of less than 2 mm anywhere in the elbow joint
2 = Støední osteoartróza (osteofyty velikosti 2-5 mm kdekoliv v loket. kloubu) /
Osteophyte formation of 2 - 5 mm anywhere in the elbow joint
3 = Tì¿ká osteoartróza nebo primární léze (osteofyty vìtší ne¿ 5 mm kdekoliv v loket. kloubu, nebo pimární léze FCP, UAP, OCD a jiné) /
Osteophyte formation of more than 5 mm anywhere in the elbow joint or primary lesions (FCP, UAP, OCD and other)

Just making it easier for everyone.....

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by vonissk on 13 January 2011 - 04:14
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I always thought the best hip scores were 0/0 which meant no dysplasia in either hip.  If I am wrong where does that rating come from?
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by SitasMom on 13 January 2011 - 04:46
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RTG "A" /0/0/  is from Slovakia, and possibly others.
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by vonissk on 13 January 2011 - 06:07
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Oh Ok thanks--at least I was in the general neighborhood!!!!!  I knew I had seen it before....................
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by katesgillkennels on 13 January 2011 - 12:04
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When I started this thread ,I really did know that nobody would speak of this,is it so bad a topic or too embarrasing,I think not, nobody chooses there dog to have high hip scores,so come on tell us which dogs have high hip scores from Czech lines,I am genuinely interested from a breeding point of view,thanks.
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by darylehret on 13 January 2011 - 17:51
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You'll find that a large majority of them are rated "0/0" or "A" (FCI standards).  What's higher than that?
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by yorkjason on 14 January 2011 - 10:17
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Katesgill if you are breeding with Czech lines make sure the dogs are elbow graded BEFORE you breed with them, do not rely on hips alone.  Many bad elbows in England from Czech lines !.
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by katesgillkennels on 14 January 2011 - 10:54
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Thanks for the heads up about the elbows,I already done all my homework about that,was just wanting people to be more open on the sort of scale of average scores of the hips,dont think anyone wants to comment though,but was worth a try,thanks again.
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by darylehret on 14 January 2011 - 12:15
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Maybe you just don't want to listen.  MOST of the dogs have "A" or "0/0" hips, and you want them ALL listed here?
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by katesgillkennels on 14 January 2011 - 20:45
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Yeah right ! most of them have 0/0,not true ! if you can prove that I will listen to you,I have seen lots of them with 0/0,but not all and its the ones that are not 0/0 I was asking about,maybes its you that isnt listening !! and also change your tone,that was a very arrogant way of a reply.
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by animules on 14 January 2011 - 21:28
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I believe what is being asked is what are the bad (high) hip scores.......  The higher the number, the worse the hips......

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by katesgillkennels on 14 January 2011 - 21:31
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Thats exactly what I am asking,In the UK low hip scores are the best ! did I word it wrong  ?
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by animules on 14 January 2011 - 21:35
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I think people were thinking "high" meant good scores.   "Highly rated" dog means good.  Hips are one of the few areas the lower the better.
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by katesgillkennels on 14 January 2011 - 22:02
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Thank you for seeing it the right way,maybes people might get back to why I started this thread,or maybes not ??
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by Prager on 14 January 2011 - 22:32
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0/0 is best,
then is 1/1.,2/2, 3/3,

yorkjason
Elbows are not any worse in Czech line then any other line. What the heck do you mean. Can you prove it?


katesgillkennels
Here is your original question (It ended on exclamation mark but I suppose it is a question.)
What is the highest hip scores you have ever seen in a working Czech line German Shepherd !

Your question really does not make much sense. Darryl gave good answer and so did the others.
 Dogs in Czech republic are coming with any type of score from 0/0 "A" to 4/4 just like anywhere else.
What are you referring to which is "embarrassing"??


Then you say:

Yeah right ! most of them have 0/0,not true ! if you can prove that I will listen to you,I have seen lots of them with 0/0,but not all and its the ones that are not 0/0.

Most of whom?
Who are "them"? Can you please reformulate your statements?
 Just look at pedigrees and you will see that most bred dogs have 0/0. Percentages of good and bad hips in over all population  all over the world are just about the same. There is no geographical difference.
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Edited by Prager on Sat Jan 15, 2011 01:07 am ::
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by katesgillkennels on 14 January 2011 - 22:43
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You americans get everything out of context,our words have different meanings,'high' is bad ,simple !!!,low is good ! is that so hard to understand,why have I been offered  a Czech bred dog with a hip score of 34 then !!! this is what I am trying to fathom out,bred in Czech !!! so where does this 4/4 come into play,34 is a terrible hip score.
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by Prager on 14 January 2011 - 22:57
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In Czech there is no 34 score. Maybe 3/4?
Yes that is dyspalstic. So do not buy it!!! What is the problem? Look for better dog.
 By the way, "High" is not necessarily equal to  "bad" and "Low" does not necessarily  equal  "good".  Here is an example : High point (good) of his life was when was offered a dog with low (bad) quality hips and recognized it and did not buy it.
Relax my friend.
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by vonissk on 14 January 2011 - 23:31
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I thought the OP meant what was the best hip rating and I answered as I did 0/0 and Sitasmom told me that was Slovakia--I have seen it oin many many Czech pedigrees.  I apologized for not being right and now I know I was................thanks for straightening that point out for me.  Things I don't know I keep my trap shut but I do know what I know............................
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