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by SitasMom on 26 October 2010 - 20:10

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I found this in a book and thought it was worth posting,

by SitasMom on 26 October 2010 - 21:10

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I've noticed that there are many people on this site that seem to think that "a2" hips are fine, but avoid dogs with a "Fair" and "Borderline" ratings........why is this?

by TingiesandTails on 26 October 2010 - 22:10

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I don't know what changed but "noch zugelassen" used to be Borderline 30 years ago...."noch zugelassen" used to be femur in socket but with slight shadows on femur head.

by jdiaz1791 on 26 October 2010 - 23:10

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As far as I know, OFA fair = a3 , maybe it was just misaligned in drawing, because there's no in between... A1= OFAexc = A A2 = OFA good = B A3 = OFA fair = C Not that is anything new , many books are written or copied and don't know any better

by SitasMom on 27 October 2010 - 17:10

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jdiaz1791 - better check again - .

I was very surprised when I saw an incorrect chart in the USA Sieger Show program booklet this past spring. Even the fine folks at the USA organization seem to be confused.......

OFA simplified the above chart info into the following and posted it on their website. It basically shows the same values.

OFA comparison chart shows the following........
a2 (fast normal) being "borderline" and a3 (noch zugelassen) being "mild".......

How many breeders use "Fast Normal" dogs in their breeding programs while they pass up "Fair" and "Borderline" dogs?

How many breeders are confused and think they're breeding to improve hips and instead are perpetuating the problem?

by trixx on 27 October 2010 - 21:10

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that is why i go by the ZW number, its a better idea of whats going on in the lines. as two A1 dogs can produce bad hip pups. look at  the ZW ,  i wont use anything above 90. and prefer in the 70's.

by SitasMom on 28 October 2010 - 05:10

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The ZW number does make selecting a dog much easier, but not all dogs have ZW #'s, especially if they are from countries other then Germany.

I've been surprised by how many "experienced breeders" don't understand or dont care about the above charts.

by duke1965 on 28 October 2010 - 10:10

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above charts are totally incorect , as to  the dogs I had evaluated in various countries some years ago

a dog with FCI rating C equals  zugelassen , but was given OFA fair in USA

numerous dogs with FCI  rating B  , all got OFA exelent

so my actual findings do not come even close to the above chart

maybe interesting to do some double or triple test again these days

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