German Shepherd Dog > Personal Protection (12 replies)

by nittygritty on 26 April 2010 - 04:04

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If you were looking for a Personal Protection Dog, where would you look?
Hoping there are some on this board that train in PPD or know of those who do and can point me in the right direction.

by duke1965 on 26 April 2010 - 10:04

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thats going to be difficult nitty , most will overcharge you for an underquality dog
most sport bred dogs are preymonsters that dont have what it takes to be PPD , but are offered as such
I would suggest you to contact eurosport or hans prager , they might be able to point you in the right direction , as these qualities can be found in certain czech/slovak lines/dogs  that are still around
Im in europe , and have several czech and czech line dogs that are perfect PPD dogs (but none for sale)
good luck

by leciesters doghandler on 26 April 2010 - 11:04

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i train in ppd among other things id say its the dog its self wether it can handle it or not i know alot of dogs that was out of working bloodline who will not even bite the sleeve but i know a few other dogs who have came out of a shelter and they hit hard ,nice grips just all round good dogs( the bitch im working with now is out of a shelter she was mistreated but you would think was born to do it ) but if your after a working line ppd then even tho i dont know him id go to hans prager or phil (works mals) 

 

regards clint  

by blkred on 26 April 2010 - 12:04

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 sportwaffen k9 has a nice pp dog on their site now. Appears to have most of training completed. Trustable source

by Am Virk on 26 April 2010 - 17:04

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Check out this guy.  I've been going to him for many years and he knows his stuff.  Here is his link www.evanstraining.ca/


Am

by nittygritty on 26 April 2010 - 18:04

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Thanks for the replies.  I'll be contacting these kennels to see what they have to offer. 
I'll post pictures when I get him!  (If I can figure out how)!

by Adi Ibrahimbegovic on 19 May 2010 - 06:05

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"If you were looking for a Personal Protection Dog, where would you look?"

NOT on this board. Contact Ivan Balabanov and see if he has something to offer you.

by JeffcoGSD on 19 May 2010 - 07:05

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Mark Boggs. WWW.KRIEGSHUNDKENNELS.COM located in Illinois.

by Penny on 19 May 2010 - 08:05

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Without a doubt   - 

Charles Wall  - 
www.A1K9.co.uk 

Charles is THE person in pp as far as the UK authorities, previous customers and all that know him are concerned.   His qualifications go far further than required and he also is in a position to take the necessary time to produce a wonderful dog to  live with as well as a pp dog taking time and effort to do so, by virtue of the importance he puts on  the necessity for the dog to be absolutely balanced in mind, not just a dog that will attack if necessary.   The control that you will get if you get a dog from Charles and Gaynor is phenomenal.  You will also need to satisfy Charles that you are a worthy person to keep and handle a dog.... so all in all, dont go to Charles if you only want a dog to bite - go to Charles if you want a wonderful companion that will protect you with confidence and loyally without making mistakes.

Mo - Mascani

by Sooner Shepherd on 22 May 2010 - 13:05

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 Rick Greenland in Oklahoma with Centruy K9  at http://statek9.com/

by ronin on 22 May 2010 - 14:05

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Some further advice; don't put the cart before the horse.

What is the threat you are seeking to manage, a dog that plays with the kids all day in the garden will not be performing at its best at 04:00am when an intruder breaks in. Where will the dog stay, outside on its own, in the house. What on going training will the dog receive, what experience have you and your family got.

I am writing in context of a serious PPD, most people actually need a dog that looks the part and if push came to shove would bite someone. What do you think the dog may have to face; an opportunist crack head wanting to steal your laptop or an ex partner intent on killing you, may be just a visible deterrent.

The good breeders will help you find the right dog to meet your needs and life style, but also try and do some research around security per se.

Regards

Mark

by windwalker18 on 23 May 2010 - 01:05

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Mark makes a great point....

A PPD that would work well in my situation would be a liability for someone with small kids.  The usual  pushing and shoving and yelling that goes with kids playing  could easily be misunderstood by even a well trained dog, and that's assuming the kids don't misuse the command words to impress or harass others kids.  If you're someone who lives alone or only with adults, and want a companion dog who  can provide personal protection (which was my situation when I trained my WGS for PPD back a zillion years ago). Shiloh LOVED people, and was 100% in crowds. I was able to take him anywhere with me.

  Go to several sources, and talk to MANY people who have gotten dogs from them.  Meet a number of dogs until you FEEL one who speaks to you as a companion, and proves himself in work as well.  Part of the success is choosing the dog, and part is choosing the trainer.  A dog can be an excellent potential PPD, and have poor training, and a trainer can be fairly good but make do with poor quality dogs.   Remember that 95% of this dog's life he won't have to show off that training, you need a dog you can live with as well as depend on.  Because Shi was so stable and outgoing he could be protection as I was never worried tht he might "go off" unexpected. 

 If you've never had or handled a PPD, or a dog doing bite work I would stress these things twice as  strongly.

by Pitbu1107 on 25 May 2010 - 02:05

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Jerry Azzi at 740-225-2109.  He's been importing hard Shepherds for police, protection and sport work for 25 years.  Stand up guy and reasonable on price.

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