Main > Is Ice Water Dangerous for dogs? (21 replies)

by VomMarischal on 12 July 2010 - 15:07

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This was on a friend’s facebook page and I thought it was worth passing along...opinions?
 
 
I am writing this in hopes that some may learn from what I just went through. We were having a good weekend till Saturday. On Saturday I showed my Baran and left the ring. He was looking good and at the top of his game. He had a chance at no less then one of the two AOM's.
 
It did not work out that way. After showing we went back to our site/set up and got the dogs in their crates to cool off. After being back about 30 min. I noticed Baran was low on water. I took a hand full of ice from my cooler and put it in his bucket with more water. We then started to get all the dogs Ex'ed and food ready for them.
 
I had Baran in his 48' crate in the van because this is the place he loves to be. He loves to be able to see everyone and everything. After checking him and thinking he was cooled off enough, we fed him. We walked around and one of my friends stated that Baran seamed like he was choking. I went over and checked on him. He was dry heaving and drooling. I got him out of the crate to check him over and noticed he had not eaten. He was in some distress. I checked him over from head to toe and did not notice anything. I walked him around for about a minute when I noticed that he was starting to bloat. I did everything I was taught to do in this case. I was not able to get him to burp, and we gave him Phasezime.
 
We rushed Baran to a vet clinic. We called ahead and let them know we were on our way. They were set up and waiting for us. They got Baran stablized very quickly. After Baran was stable and out of distress we transported him to AVREC where he went into surgery to make sure no damage was done to any of his vital organs. I am very happy to say Baran is doing great, there was no damage to any vital organs, and he still loves his food.
 
In surgery the vet found that Baran's stomach was in its normal anatomic position. We went over what had happened. When I told the vet about the ice water, he asked why I gave him ice water. I said that I have always done this. I told him my history behind this practice and his reply was, "I have been very lucky." The ice water I gave Baran caused violent muscle spasms in his stomach which caused the bloating. Even though I figured his temperature was down enough to feed, and gave him this ice water, I was wrong. His internal temperature was still high. The vet stated that giving a dog ice to chew or ice water is a big NO, NO! There is no reason for a dog to have ice/ice water. Normal water at room temperature, or cooling with cold towels on the inner thigh, is the best way to help cool a dog. The vet explained it to me like this: If you, as a person, fall into a frozen lake what happens to your muscles? They cramp. This is the same as a dog's stomach.
 
I felt the need to share this with everyone, in the hopes that some may learn from what I went through, I do not wish this on anyone. Baran is home now doing fine. So please if you do use ice and ice water, beware of what could happen.
  

by Doberdoodle on 12 July 2010 - 18:07

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I knew it was bad to give dogs ice water because (what I thought) it tenses up their stomach muscles, that is why you often see vomiting if a dog drinks ice cold water.  The temp difference is too wide.

I was on the website of a doggie daycare/hotel type place, and it said all the dogs get ice water.  I was thinking how foolish this sounded, as I've seen dogs vomit from drinking cold water (not even with ice, but just ice cold water) especially if they have been running around.

by Liesjers on 12 July 2010 - 18:07

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I heard it was bad too so I stopped.  We don't have AC and it's hot and super humid indoors where my dogs stay while I'm at work so I used to put two trays of ice in their water bucket but I stopped and just give them cool water, not even cold.  I do still give them the ice block from my cooler to chew on but it's one huge chunk and they just gnaw at it for fun, don't actually try to eat the whole thing and if they break off a piece they just leave it and keep chewing, and I take it away after half hour or so.

by Doberdoodle on 12 July 2010 - 18:07

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Also from the same type of topic, since it's summer...  If a dog gets heat stroke and passes out, some peoples first instinct is to put him in the tub and drench him in ice cold water, this can actually put the dog into shock the AC inspector told me this happened recently. 

Sometimes just air conditioned room and a fan helps, wetting the paws and groin area.  Don't keep wet towels on the dog b/c it holds heat in-- when something gets wet it needs air to take the heat away, the water is just the conductor as it evaporates- that's how sweat works.  Or if internal temp is very high, vet may give a cool water enema, checking the rectal temp every few minutes.

PS Glad your dog was ok!

by Bhaugh on 12 July 2010 - 18:07

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I wish I would have had this info last week when one of my dogs was playing in the water. He likes to be squired directly in the face from the hose. He doesnt seem to be taking much water in so I didnt think too much about it. Later in the evening he was throwing up and refused to eat. He had it once before and I took him to the vet with a 200.00 xray bill only to find nothing but at the time I thought he was acting like it was bloat.

Guess that game is out. Hey thanks for posting that!

by VomRuiz on 12 July 2010 - 18:07

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Ice water is bad for people too, especially in very hot weather or if you're already dehydrated.
My doctor told me room temp water or only slightly cool.
A girl at work also told me room temp water absorbs better, but I had never heard that before or after :-) So don't hold me to that. ;-)
If I drink ice water, I can feel my stomach knot up and I want to puke, so I imagine the dogs feel the same way but keep drinking it anyway cause it feels refreshing going down and they usually don't know better than to STOP.
When training my dogs always only get just a little bit of warm water and the same afterwards.
Stacy

by Doberdoodle on 12 July 2010 - 18:07

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Why not buy a window unit and keep the dogs in that one room?  Closing your blinds or drapes helps keeping the sun out.  A dehumidifyer is also a good idea, I think its cheaper to run than an AC unit and it helps a lot.  Humidity makes it feel hotter because your sweat cannot evaporate from your skin to cool you b/c the air is already too full of moisture, makes it hard to breathe almost.  I had one in my old apt and would empty an entire bucket of water every 5 hours in the summer!  I've seen them for $99.

They also make several kinds of cooling mats, I don't know how well they work though
http://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=dog+cool+mat&tag=googhydr-20&index=aps&hvadid=3998014225&ref=pd_sl_1lntpp6uk_b

by NoCurs on 12 July 2010 - 18:07

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Thanks for posting that!

by Sunsilver on 12 July 2010 - 18:07

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I have a friend who does agility with her dogs in Arizona and New Mexico. She loves the cooling mats, and she also mists her dogs with cool water from a spray bottle to keep their temperature down.

by jc.carroll on 12 July 2010 - 19:07

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When I PT I always drink water at room temp. It doesn't taste as good as cold water; but drinking water too cold will at best cause one to cramp and throw up when the body temp is elevated, and at worst set up for system shock. I have to remind the young sailors not to freeze their water bottles, which a lot of people like to do. I've seen enough people throw up from drinking chilled water; and one kid had to go to the VA. It's something no one thinks about.


Thanks for posting this!

by Liesjers on 12 July 2010 - 19:07

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Doberdoodle, we actually do have a nice window unit but it requires a different type of outlet (forgive me, I am not an electrician!) which is only in one room, the dining room, which happens to be used the least and my "nice" room that is off limits to dogs (where we have guests, nicer floor, where I keep my antiques and curios from Africa).  We rent our home so are limited in what modifications we are allowed to do or what we would sink money into a property we don't own and don't plan on living in more than a year from now.  When it is super hot, I actually close the windows and close all the shades during the day.  In the morning while I'm getting ready I run the attic fan to suck in the morning air, then try to lock it in during the day.  The dogs have a little water in their crates and have a box fan on them on low.  I think they are not in any danger of heat during the day, but the humidity is what sucks the energy out of us, both human and dog.  The past week or so I have done very limited training, let the dogs self-regulate their exercise (no biking or jogging the dogs, they can run and play as much or as little as they choose) and we even canceled our agility class and a get-together for midweek SchH training last week.  I also let the dogs dig when it's hot, one of my dogs prefers to be outside and he will dig a shallow hole so the dirt is cool and stay there all evening (the door is open but he stays out).

I'm not one to put fans directly on my dogs' crates, get them soaking wet, or pack ice under their dog bed.  I'd rather just give them more freedom to self-regulate, access to water, and not force them to over exert.

Last summer was really really mild here, only a week or so where it was high 80s or above and humid.  This summer is proving to be different but we're all just taking it easy.

by yellowrose of Texas on 12 July 2010 - 19:07

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Yes, it.   Very , as it is for people also.  Research shows now in recent studies, that the room temp . water and not adding ice to your drinks when you eat is the way to keep the body in sync,   WHen our rhythms get out of control and the digestion system goes wacko our whole mind and nerves are right behind .

Drinking iced tea with a  meal is not the best. Use tea at a normal temp and wait till after your meal for a glass of colder tea if possible.

I am having a time with that one.

Dogs should only get a cup of water when working or trialing at one time.  never let them swig down water  no matter what they are involved in.  Wait till they pant a while and cool then offer a small amount of water again until they are normal temp. Then resume their water in their kennels or home.

when in kennels they have room or water at the atmosphere temp and they drink only moderalely . It is when we work,, play or do activities that they want to drink.

Panting cools a dog. No need for spraying or acting any different.   Some people freeze plastic water bottles and ride them in a crate on a trip which is fine. But the dog must not chew them open or drink the cold water.

Under coats and panting are the aids that a dog has to cool them selves or dig a hole in the dirt or  under a bush to get cooler. 

by ice on 12 July 2010 - 19:07

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by Ninja181 on 12 July 2010 - 20:07

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And never climb into bed with an ice cold woman.

by Ruger1 on 12 July 2010 - 22:07

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Thanks for the information.    Ruger1

by MaggieMae on 13 July 2010 - 03:07

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Thanks for this thread/information -- I'll definitely stop putting ice cubes in my dog's water.

by yellowrose of Texas on 13 July 2010 - 04:07

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One of two icecubes off the kitchen floor will not bother them but water iced will


YR

by VomMarischal on 13 July 2010 - 04:07

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I was always in the habit of taking frozen gallon jugs of water to training so the dogs would have cold water after training. I never let them have much, only a cup or maybe two. Then I would make them wait for a little more. Well, now that I know better, I'll be jinxed, so I will have to change my ways.

by crhuerta on 13 July 2010 - 04:07

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I had heard the same about ice water years ago....but I could not remember who gave me this info?!
Thanks for verifying it for me.....
It is posts & info like this, that makes this board such a good read!
Robin

by LAVK-9 on 13 July 2010 - 05:07

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I give my dog ice for a treat but haven't given him ice water. Even if he is hot he doesn't drink alot of water unlesshe has cooled off.Maybe he knows it is bad.

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