Main > Recognize a long hair puppy (31 replies)

by Arko on 17 December 2005 - 05:12

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Witch is the earliest age to be noticed if a puppy will be of long hair? How you can see it?

by dee see on 17 December 2005 - 11:12

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somewhere around 6 weeks if u can see hair in paws of puppy that means puppy would be long coated

by master on 17 December 2005 - 13:12

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can long coated be used for future breeding program and can the progeny registered with GSD VA club.

by Bob-O on 17 December 2005 - 23:12

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Another way to recognize a longcoat is by looking at the hair on the backs of the ears. As Dee Cee mentioned, at about six (6) weeks of age it is easy to spot. There are two (2) types of longcoat. First-the type referred to as "long stock hair". This hair is longer than normal, but the dog/bitch does have a true undercoat, and can be eligible for a breed survey result such as Kkl-2, rather than Kkl-1. The second type is a true "longcoat". This hair is longer than normal, and the dog/bitch never develops an undercoat. A coat of this type will not pass a breed survey. In all cases, the dog can be registered and trained just as any other dog. Certain lines produce the longcoat, but both parents must have the recessive gene for this to happen.

by Dawnmarie on 17 December 2005 - 23:12

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There are judges who apparently give a VP ratings to "longcoat" puppies though, saw that with my own eyes at a show several months ago... but i havent seen a judge breed survey any :) Regards, Dawnmarie

by huntshep on 18 December 2005 - 03:12

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I have had long coats in the last several litters. At about 2-3 weeks if any puppies are questionable you will begin to see the difference in hair texture above the ears especially. Also the hair will have a more defined curl. In my litters I have found their head to look different from the other puppies from birth. If someone is interested in viewing I can email photos that make it really noticeable.

by k9only1 on 18 December 2005 - 18:12

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huntshep, can you send the photos of these pups at 2-3 weeks? iv'e never seen it that early in a litter, 6 weeks is when iv'e seen it above the ears, and on the paws.

by RED BULL on 21 December 2005 - 12:12

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I quite agree. I can usually tell by the 2-3 week age whether a pup will be long haired or not. There is a definite and noticeable difference in head shape - almost Schauzer with ever so sligtly longer,coarser hair around the nose. Also, look at the hair on the front legs - you will notice a difference in length and texture, albeit slight, but it's there - if you compare a couple of pups together (trusting that they're not all longcoats) you will see the difference. I've had pups with wavy coats around the shoulders and in most instances this doesn't signify a long coat - the above has been my tried and tested method for many a year and so far has not let me down.

by thecouch on 10 September 2007 - 13:09

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I'm wondering if you could email me pictures of the 2-3 week old long coated puppies? I'm in the process of buying one and would just like to see what another breeder has to say to determine the lengths. Thanks!

Sarah Couchie

by jdh on 10 September 2007 - 13:09

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I have found the ear tufts to be most reliable. Also as stated slightly longer shaggier hair on face and legs that would normally be very short and smooth. I once sold a pup without ear tufts as a pet because he had a rather shaggy mane and a slightly longer coat than his siblings. By 6 months his coat was 100% normal. Best Wishes, Jonah

by animules on 10 September 2007 - 13:09

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True long haired GSD's are considered a disqualifying fault in the breed standards. 

by Blitzen on 10 September 2007 - 17:09

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For $58 you can have a DNA test that will identify coats and carriers.

by kitkat3478 on 10 September 2007 - 20:09

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This is a 3 week 'obviously' coated girl ,the other 2 in the pic are smooth. I'll post below her sister who I have that is real smooth coated, smoother than I like.

     In fact, I have various coats and just really learned about the stock coat. I'm going to try to put 3 dogs in one pic, and would like opinions as to the coat(actually I'd like facts on the coats, they do vary)

by ShepherdWoman on 10 September 2007 - 22:09

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This is Chaos a long coat with a VERY thick undercoat!  But yes he is a long coat.  He does compete in conformation and so far has not been turned down by a judge.  Chaos was 9 weeks old in this picture, I believe.

by Louise M. Penery on 11 September 2007 - 05:09

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I can generally recognize longcoats as soon as they are dy after birth.

They tend to have unusually (often much darker than their littermates or what one would expect from a given breeding) dark, black, shiny heads with few visible facial markings. In fact, in a certain light (especially that of an orange heat lamp), the black heads almost take on an iridescent glow that you don't see on the normal coated siblings.
When the bitch licks the heads, the damp hair tends to part as it dries--at the very bases of these hairs, you can see a few lighter markings. After a couple of days, you may also be able to discern dark, muddy areas on the cheeks (no obvious triangles) and dingey looking eyebrows.
Thereafter, if you ruffle up the facial hair and draw it forward towards the nose, you can see the very beginning of that "Border Terrier" appearance. Later, of course, their heads (especially through the muzzle) take on that "barn owl" (some people say they look like a "Chinaman") look.
Anyhow, this is how I'm able to pick longcoats. So far, I've never been wrong. Occasionally, people may send me a photo (with good lighting) of frontal view of a pup's face to show me what a dark face their dog has produced. I reply, "Fine--if it's not a longcoat". They invariable are.

by farluli on 04 June 2008 - 13:06

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Have this puppy long hair?


by VonIsengard on 04 June 2008 - 16:06

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Well, I have produced all of one longcoat, and yes, she did have a distinctly different head than the others immediately, "schnauzer" came to my mind also. Her coat also had a softer, smoother texture. I wasn't sure at first because she was my first coated puppy. Here is a picture of her, I think around 4 weeks.




Now here is a pic of the same longcoat pup at 8 weeks:


Farluli- your puppy looks long coated to me.



by venzosmom on 04 June 2008 - 16:06

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does this one look like a long coat ?

by tigermouse on 04 June 2008 - 18:06

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I produced a plush and the only thing that was different was the line of fluff down the inside of the front legs was really thick and behind the ears also .wicket @7wks and at 1 year

by farluli on 04 June 2008 - 20:06

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KCzaja, thanks for your opinion, your puppy is very nice.

Some opinion more?

I like short hair, no long hair.

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