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by gsdtrotter on 23 August 2005 - 13:08

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What does Noch Zuglasen mean, i hope i have written it properly thanx

by soothersmaylive on 23 August 2005 - 14:08

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noch zugelassen is "still admitted" or "still permissable"....the SV will accept the hip ratings for breeding purposes, but I BELIEVE this is the lowest score still accepted. (someone correct me if I'm wrong!)

by GSDfan on 23 August 2005 - 14:08

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Yes it is the lowest score.

by KENDZ on 23 August 2005 - 16:08

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It is also interesting to note that the great Jeck Noricum was also classified noch zugelassen.

by Brittany on 23 August 2005 - 16:08

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Talking about Hip scores... Im reading a good article, which im sure that most of you guys had already read. The URL is at I was curious into knowing why do people contuine breeding dogs with Fast normal hips? Isn't Breeding suppose to be IMPROVING the breed including the health? As far as Noch zengelassen Is not good at all. that is LIGHT HD! Even know SV allows it... I would not advise people to breed any dog with that stamp. Jeck is not under that cat. His HD ZW is 94 which is Fast normal (Unless if they changed his number).

by Steel Magnolia on 23 August 2005 - 18:08

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What really bothers me is the inconsistency. for example OFA Good and fast normal from Germany - OFA FAIR but a German a normal. WHY would or should this be? I also do PennHIP because I want to know about joint laxity, as it's a major contributor to HD, and that also has inconsisteny, with a good PennHIP score not necessarily translating to a good OFA or a stamp rating... Totally baffles me.

by Sue-Ann on 23 August 2005 - 18:08

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Many Noch Zugel dogs still have normal, *not displastic* hips into their elder years. Xrays take 3 dimensions to 2 dimensions...much information is lost. If the hip joint has no bony changes *and* has limited or no laxity, the score from OFA or a-stamps is a pass. The differences between, excellent, good, fair, normal, fast normal and noch zugel are subjective (opinion). My noch zugel (age 1), OFA fair (age 5) bitch produced multiple litters and ZERO displasia. In my experience, any dog with a pass will do well in it's individual lifetime. What the dog produces is another story ;-)

by kioanes on 23 August 2005 - 18:08

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ZW numbers do not define a hip rating. jeck is indeed rated noch zugelassen (a3)

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