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by Missbyron on 03 March 2009 - 21:03

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I need some help. My 6yr old pit mix gave birth to 14 puppies. 2 were still born.  All the rest, except one, is doing just fine even though we have had to supplement the dam's milk supply. (poor girl). Anyway, My problem puppy is a male who can not walk on his front legs.  He either flops to one side of the or the other, but not on both legs at once. Could this have been because there was not enough room in her for proper development, or could he just be a late bloomer and it will take him a while to get it right.
I have been trying to help him just stand correctly, but I can feel his upper body just want to go to one side or another. Any ideas anyone?  He is a sweetheart and never gives up trying to get where he wants to go.  I do know the other puppies try to push him around, but he not having any of it. lol.

Please help. All answers would be appreciated.

by DeesWolf on 03 March 2009 - 22:03

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Sounds like a "swimmer puppy" to me. Lots of information on this site

http://www.swimmerpuppy.com/description.html

by Uber Land on 04 March 2009 - 03:03

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is the bottom of his chest flat? like where the sternum would be?  if  its flat and he is real barrel chested he's probably a swimmer puppy, or has a deformity. 

by windwalker18 on 04 March 2009 - 19:03

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Agree... sounds like swimers ....

First be certain that you have a good solid footing under the pups.  I like to use those industrial rug/mats for the floor as they can't be "fluffed" up and smother a pup.  (I've 3 that I rotate... one in the crate, one being washed in the tub, one drying). If it's not severe that may be enough...  but I have made a "harness" using tape and cast padding... wrap around the pup's shoulders and behind the front legs, then around the front of the legs, taking a turn around each leg at the elbow with the cast padding. ( if you don't have that you could substitue with paper towels or even toilet paper as the main reason for it is to keep the tape from sticking) you then take a loose circle of tape behind the  forelegs... pull both legs into the proper position for walking and take a figure 8 around the two fastening it to that circle of tape.  Add tape til you feel secure, but ONLY LET 1/4" OF TAPE TOUCH THE FUR BEHIND THE  CIRCLE AROUND THE CHEST.  I leave that "jacket" on for 5 days to a week, then just clip the tape/cotton and peal it off. 

I've used it a number of times when small litters got too pudgey and had problems, and also used it @ work when we had pups come into the Vet Clinic with the problem.  Even the Vet was surprised how well it works.

Good luck... be sure to change the footing.

by LoveTheVADogs on 04 March 2009 - 20:03

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How old are the puppies? Most puppies can't walk "properly" for some time (we're talking up to a couple of weeks, depending on the dog breed) after birth. As others have stated, this sounds like a swimmer puppy, but just in case, I figured I should ask how old they were.

by Red Sable on 05 March 2009 - 01:03

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How old are the puppies?


3 weeks, says so in thread title.

by Missbyron on 05 March 2009 - 21:03

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The puppies will be 4wks old on Sunday. I put a video of Ninja on youtube to show what happens.  It is not swimmers puppy as I have researched that. His legs point to the same side of his body. (both pointing to the left or the right depending on the way he leans).

He stomach and chest are fine and his brothers and sisters are walking just fine.  One is even running.

I've thought of doing the harness thing to help support his legs under him and see how that works. My daughter wants to do the full therapy thing. Including the water treatment. Told her he may be too young for that. But It also seems like he has a problem with his neck and holding his head straight as well.  He looks healthy other wise.

The name of the video on youtube is Ninja3wkpup.

by GS Mom on 06 March 2009 - 00:03

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Looks like it could have a balance problem (inner ear) or is just too fat.  How is it weightwise compared to the littermates?  Do you know if it sustained any head trauma?

BTW here is the link to the video:

www.youtube.com/watch

by Uber Land on 06 March 2009 - 00:03

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yep, could be an ear infection or something.  A breeder I knew had a young pom pup who reacted like this,  She had a bad ear infection.  I've seen ear mites do the same thing too.

by SitasMom on 06 March 2009 - 01:03

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this might sound a little crazy, but have you taken this puppy to the vet for a check up?

by Missbyron on 06 March 2009 - 04:03

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No I havent taken  him to the vet yet, needed the money to do so. I'm taking him for a full check up.  As for his weight, he is in the mid range of his litter mates. In this photo, he had just finished eating. 
As for head trauma, not that I know of.  

I've been trying to find a vet that wont cost me alot to have the x-rays done at, but I think i'm out of luck.

I'll let you know what the vet says.

by Two Moons on 06 March 2009 - 04:03

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Have you considered the obvious?
You have twelve mixed breed puppies.
I would have already given it peace.
You have homes for all these puppies?
Teach your daughter the responcibilities of raising animals.

Moons.

 

by Missbyron on 06 March 2009 - 08:03

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I will not kill this puppy with out know what is wrong and if it can be fixed. My daughter already knows the responsiblities of raising animals. This is her second litter and we have several different kinds of animals in the house. All were gotten when babies.

And yes, I have homes for my babies.  Had several set up before they were born.

by Two Moons on 06 March 2009 - 17:03

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Maybe once you find the money to take the pup to the vet, you'll find out what can be done and how much that will cost.
Don't take me wrong,  I just do things different.
Good luck.

by SitasMom on 06 March 2009 - 17:03

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there are low cost vets available,

by Okie Amazon on 06 March 2009 - 18:03

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Certainly looks like neurological problem or (hopefully) inner ear/ear infection.  

Where are you?
 
I might be able to scare up some links that can help you.


by Red Sable on 06 March 2009 - 19:03

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Has this pup been like this since birth?  We've had piglets born like that, and they of course were put down.  All the best with your puppy, and let us know what the vet says.

by steve1 on 07 March 2009 - 12:03

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Sorry to here about the Pups problem, but if you cannot afford to take any Dog or Pup that is ill to the Vet when the Vets expertise is needed,  then the Pups should never have been bred in the first place
Steve

by Missbyron on 07 March 2009 - 15:03

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First of all, I am not breeding my dogs.  My dog got out when she was in heat. 
2nd of all. I have the money for routine visits, but I know this is not a routine care that he would need.  

I am currently in Alabama, and I have noticed another issue with Ninja.  Hard to explain, but He would be looking in one direction, his head pointing on another and his body goes in the direction of his head. Of course the diretion that his body is going, the leg on that side is under his body.

I have spoken to one of the vets here, and he told me that he knows what I am refering to as he has seen it before, but only once. He remembers it cause of the rareity of the problem.  It is a neurological disorder caused by lack of oxygen in the uterus. Since she was pregnant with 14 pups, it was just too much. He was actually surprised that none of the other pups that survived had the same issue.

Anyway, he told me that the cost is very expensive and unless I could afford treatment that may not work, i should have him put down.

Thank you for all the constructive responses.


by Rezkat5 on 07 March 2009 - 16:03

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My older bitch was bred once by the breeder as a young dog.  Two of her puppies had neurologic signs at around 3 weeks of age.


Her puppies were in turn put to sleep.

For the sake of your poor dog.  Please have her spayed after this litter.  There are low cost spay/neuter clinics out there too. 

Get the pup to the vet, for at least an exam....

My gut too says, to let this one go.....

Just my two cents...

Kathy


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