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by macawpower58 on 05 January 2009 - 05:01

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I'd like some info from those who have used pineapple to curb stool eating. My EPI boy is having a slight backslide causing  all

3 of my boys to start stool eating. I dislike it intensely!

Forbid doesn't work.

How much pineapple per cup of feed? Can I use just the juice, or does the fruit need to be added?

How long before It will start to work, if it even does?

Thanks

Becky

by stormhasit on 05 January 2009 - 05:01

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Apple Cider Vinager works well!!!  Use 1/4 cup per gallon water and this will help curb the habit.  There is also to many other benefits to using as well for many aspects of their overall health.  I keep ACV in all my animals water 24/ 7 and encourage others. 

Only a few days into it you should notice an improvement. 

 

by Jyl on 05 January 2009 - 05:01

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I use about 2 tables spoons in my dogs meal. You can also try canned chopped spinach. It works great also. I mix pineapple in one meal and spinach in the other. It seems to work very well.

Hope this helps.

by macawpower58 on 05 January 2009 - 06:01

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Thanks for the quick answers

Apple Cidar Vinagar? In the water? It doesn't effect the taste enough to discourage drinking?  I have heard for years of it's benifit, but never heard of it used for coprophagy.  I'll have to give it a try.

by Jyl on 05 January 2009 - 06:01

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I have not tried that. I am not sure how good that work. I would be afraid that it would make the water taste bad and the dogs not want to drink

 

by stormhasit on 05 January 2009 - 07:01

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The dogs will still drink normal amounts.  I use it in the dogs water as well as the chickens I have.  It will help deter fleas and ticks, help with digestion and nurtient absorbtion, stools will smell less, yeast infections will decrease, it helps with authritus and joint issues, I could go on here about the benefits!   

The only thing I can think of to be aware of - don't use it with metal water buckets or dishes.  Other than that this is one of the safest and best things you can give your dog! 

by Gator113 on 05 January 2009 - 07:01

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stormhasit 

You're very convincing, so much so...... that I now have a very strong urge to drink a tall glass of it myself. LOL
 
I'm thinking of providing that to my pup just for grins and giggles. Do you know if there has been any kind of medical evaluation/report on serving this to a dog? 
 
Any downside or side effects?

by Gator113 on 05 January 2009 - 08:01

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 stormhasit

I just completed a bit of research and found that there is a ton of info about this on the net. 

 

Thanks for bringing it up.

by Bob-O on 05 January 2009 - 12:01

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I do not know of any substancial benefits obtained by feeding pineapple to a dog or adding apple cider vinegar to its water. As far as I know, neither will make a dog ill provided they are used in reasonable amounts. I know that all of mine like fresh pineapple and would tolerate a bit of vinegar in their water.

In my life so far I've had but one (1) bitch who would eat her stool, and I suspected a pancreatic issue. This behaviour eventually disappeared as she matured, and her pancreas was/is fine. I used the product "Distaste" for a thirty-day period and it worked well, but the bad habit returned shortly afterwards. I used the product again, and the behaviour finally changed.

In the past, people had a "folk remedy" of  adding meat tenderizer or garlic powder to the dog's food in order to curb this behaviour. I cannot suggest using either of these due to the presense of garlic. In small amounts garlic does not usually affect dogs in a negative way and may be beneficial to some dogs, but it is a proven fact that garlic can poison and kill some dogs. I choose to err on the side of caution and not allow them to eat anything that contains garlic or onions.

Best Regards,

Bob-O

by Diane on 05 January 2009 - 12:01

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Bob-O and Macawpower58,

Pineapple contains the enzyme bromelain which can aid in digestion of proteins.  Bromelain is also the primary ingredient in one of the meat tenderizers (I think McCormick has bromelain and Adolfs has papain).  Papain is a similar enzyme found in papaya fruit.  So, there is a connection between pineapple/papaya and meat tenderizers with respect to digestion.  Meat tenderizers work by partially digesting the meat.  It makes some sense that adding either pineapple or meat tenderizer to a dog's food might aid in digestion and thus help prevent stool eating if dogs are eating stool due to undigested material present.  

Here's one of the many sites describing the actions of bromelain:  http://www.worldhealth.net/news/bromelain_pineapple_enzyme

Regards,

Diane Seaman

by Two Moons on 05 January 2009 - 16:01

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What are you feeding your dogs macaw?

That they would eat it twice?

Just curious

by Two Moons on 05 January 2009 - 16:01

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What are you feeding your dogs macaw?

That they would eat it twice?

Just curious

by Two Moons on 05 January 2009 - 16:01

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more glitchs ?

by snajper69 on 05 January 2009 - 16:01

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ACV works like a charm.

by RoZoAn on 05 January 2009 - 17:01

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The only thing that has worked for me is........Clean it up before it's an option.

by macawpower58 on 05 January 2009 - 17:01

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Two moons I am feeding Canidea.  The reason they are eating it twice is because I have a dog with pancreatic disease.  He

began to do a backslide.  I'm working at restableizing him, but as soon as he stops fulling digesting his food, he and my other

two dogs begin eating it.

RoZoAn, I do clean it up almost instantly.  But watching 3 poopers at 4am, in the pitch dark, is difficult.  I sometimes miss

where each one has gone.   My EPI dog has also had a few accidents in the house, all that's left is the stain, when I get home.

by Baldursmom on 05 January 2009 - 19:01

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Caser Milan had a stool eating dog on the show last week.  He used the leave it comand and rewarded the dog with a banana to curb the behavior!  No magic to the banana, just a treat to curb the habit.  Maybe training can help??

by Bob-O on 06 January 2009 - 00:01

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Diane, thank you very much for that information. I have never read the list of ingredients for meat tenderizer, much past its content of garlic and other spices. It is the content of garlic in some meat tenderizers that keeps me concerned. Perhaps for no reason, but I tend to be careful.

I have been fortunate as I only had one (1) bitch who would eat her stool. She was perhaps nine (9) months old when she began this behaviour. At the beginning I noticed that her stool had a lighter colour, was softer than normal, and it had a more pronouced odor. I suspected that she might have a pancreatic issue, but did not test her since occassionally her stool looked just fine..

She was (and still is) a very punchy girl. I think it was her high level of activity, plus she was a "gulper" at that time in her life and made a game of running and drinking water from every bucket and commode in the house. I think her massive intake of water may have caused her food to be excreted before it was sufficiently digested, and of course that is similar to pancreatic malfunction.

She eventually matured and everything was correct. As always, thanks for your input. It's nice when an expert visits here.

Best Regards,

Bob-O

 

by Two Moons on 06 January 2009 - 01:01

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macaw,

You said three poopers.   Three dogs, all eating their waste.    One is sick.

If this has already been going on for a while I don't think your gonna cure it.   You should try but I don't think your gonna get it to ever stop between these three dogs.   Its becoming a learned behavior and will become a habit soon if it hasn't already.

Separate the dogs, the two healthy dogs should eat only once a day and be excersized.  Add what you will to the food.  Maybe crate them for a while to change their schedual, feeding time and going out to do their business, teach them a new habit. 

The sick dog your gonna have to deal with differently, I don't know what your doing in the way of maintainance or treatment of the disease but if need be you could put the dog on an open floor (grates) that allow the waste to fall thru.

A little poops not gonna kill a dog, probably wouldn't even make one sick, but eating it all the time will.  Find a way.

My best advice would be to separate the dogs and deal with them each on their own.  Either train them and change their habits, or separate them from the waste.   Use whatever you find that may discourage the eating habit, but understand it will become a habit if you can't do something soon.   Dogs are hard to break of bad habits once they set in.

I've seen products advertised to stop this but I wouldn't trust them and dont believe in that method of dealing with a problem like this.

Best of luck with your sick dog.

Moons.

 

by macawpower58 on 06 January 2009 - 02:01

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Thanks for all your replies.

Moons, it doesn't happen normally.  But it starts up whenever my sick dog gets sicker.  I am working on keeping him isolated so that his poop doesn't attract them, but the other two get into the habit very quickly, and them I'd like to curb.

I'll try several suggestions here, and even though I'm quick picking up, I guess I'd better get quicker!

Thanks again everyone.


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