Main > How can I find out if these dogs are priced right? Opinions please. (110 replies)
How can I find out if these dogs are priced right? Opinions please.
by CodyB on 19 December 2008 - 00:29
Hello, am looking for a nice dog for our family and my wife came across these two. Second and third dogs down the page.
Ben is $15,000.00
by jennit on 19 December 2008 - 00:34
You are joking...right?
by CodyB on 19 December 2008 - 00:40
Not at all.
by akctrainer on 19 December 2008 - 00:49
The comma is in the wrong place and there is one too many zeros.
by wuzzup on 19 December 2008 - 00:50
I think Ben should be free..
by Turbo on 19 December 2008 - 00:52
Are you sure you didn't add too many zero's? How about 1,200.00 and 1,500.00 Not worth a penny more in my opinion.......
by jennit on 19 December 2008 - 00:54
If you are just wanting a nice family dog, try looking at a shelter or GSD rescue group.
by AKVeronica60 on 19 December 2008 - 00:55
These dogs have no show ratings...which you can do even as a pup, and most breeders over in Germany will show a promising puppy. Diego has a very good pedigree...but he is almost three years old and nothing has been done with him.....at that age, he should have a show rating, SchH title and a breed survey-- so why hasn't this been done with him?
They just have the BH, obedience and temperament test, not a real title. What are you looking for? If protective companions, then they don't appear to have any protection training. For that kind of money, you should be able to get something with protection training.
Diego's ad says "Has hips and elbows certified". This means...nothing. Are they certified with the OFA or with the SV? If with the SV, "certified" can mean "Noch zuglassen" elbows, which are considered dysplastic with the OFA. If you wanted to breed...no one in the USA is going to want pups from a dog whose elbows are noch zuglassen.
Ben's ad says "Has hips and elbows certified good". With what organization? OFA does not certify elbows as "good". They are either Normal, or dysplastic. Nothing inbetween. If with the SV...there is no "good" classification. For hips and elbows there is A1, fast normal, and noch zuglassen. Again...anything less than A1 elbows or OFA normal is considered dysplastic with the OFA.
These people probably went and purchased these dogs for 3000 Euros in Germany, and now are reselling them for three times that amount.
BTW, if this is a joke, and you are pulling our collective legs about your interest in these dogs.....with me responding so seriously....I'm going to have a talk with Santa about putting a lump of coal in your Christmas stocking!!
by raymond on 19 December 2008 - 00:58
I you just wnt a nice dog for the family then you are looking in the wrong place. The ones you are looking at are priced for what they are intended for. Unless you are going to continue their training and show then get another dog besides these. there are plenty of gsd for sale as strictly for the family that cost considerably less.
by Mystere on 19 December 2008 - 00:58
|$12k and $15k for UNTITLED DOGS????? I agree with one of the other posters. The going rate would be a comma over and a couple zeroes fewer.|
by CodyB on 19 December 2008 - 01:00
by AKVeronica60 on 19 December 2008 - 01:01
Okay Cody...you should look for something for at least 1/3 this money for just a nice dog. That should get you a very nice one.
by AKVeronica60 on 19 December 2008 - 01:04
Please, unless they have done you wrong, you should respect their privacy and not post email. It is okay to ask questions, that is your right as a buyer and is an intelligent thing to do, but please don't post email. Veronica
by buckeyefan gsd on 19 December 2008 - 01:07
why would anyone consider spending $15,000 for a dog with that deformed back?
by ShellyK on 19 December 2008 - 01:27
Veronica I think he posted the email because several board members were suggesting he had put the commas in the wrong place. The seller surely has the commas in the wrong place, but don't blame the poster.
Cody, Diego's sire is a quality animal, but you can buy Winner vom Assaut progeny out of better "brand name" dams for 1000 Euros across Germany. As for Ben, I've never seen a Nando dog with a head or hindquarter like that, but Nando sons are readily available for 700 Euros throughout Germany.
In any event Cody you're well advised to continue your search.
by SitasMom on 19 December 2008 - 01:32
I can get dogs similar to these for $1,000 and $1,500 all day and every day. What makes these worh the price? I just don't see it.
by wuzzup on 19 December 2008 - 01:43
I will say it again Ben should be free..
by buckeyefan gsd on 19 December 2008 - 01:46
he should come with free chiropractic care!!!
by sundancesharon on 19 December 2008 - 01:50
It amazes me what people are asking and getting for these untitled dogs! A "BH" is NOT a Title, BTW. And you are looking for a nice family dog , yet they parade Diego out to you saying that "he can be aggressive"??????
I know of a nice pup that came from this breeders own breeding, and they asked a small fortune also for their own pup out of UNtitled parents.
STAY AWAY from these guys, is what I would do. There are so many nice reasonable people out there with nice, reasonable dogs, priced reasonably.
I am very glad you have asked for opinions on this one.
by jletcher18 on 19 December 2008 - 01:50
im thinking for that much they should have titles, koer reports, and proven progeny. oh well, i guess as long as people are willing to pay that much, others will have them for sale for that much.