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by gsdwins on 07 November 2004 - 05:11

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Does anyone have a clue why a 12 week old puppy would eat its feces? The pup has been in my home for 3 weeks....and we have witnessed it trying to eat its feces on at least 3 or 4 occassions. Is this a vitamin/nutrient issue? The pup is not kenneled...as a matter of fact...the pup hates the kennel. This makes me suspect the poor thing was kenneled too much prior to its arrival. The pup arrived malnourished, anemic and with tape worms. We have treated this and the puppy's condition and energy level has greatly improved. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

by Vikram on 07 November 2004 - 05:11

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It could also be becuase of worms in his stomach Vikram

by sunshine on 07 November 2004 - 06:11

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gsdwins, check the treats that you are giving the pup additionally. Sometimes they are so rich that they do not digest in the young dog and therefore it will still be "attractive" to him/her. Sorry that your pup arrived in such poor condition. You may be supplementing too much because of the original problem?

by Blitzen on 07 November 2004 - 06:11

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My first GSD was stool eater and I've had other dog that did it too. I tried all the tricks in the book to make him stop - Forbid, meat tenderizer, and lots of other things suggested, but nothing worked. Switched foods, decreased the amount of meat, all sort of stuff. The best I could do was to follow him around with the scooper and get to the treat before he did. My current GSD is Mister Clean, he won't even go near his stool, runs in the opposite direction after the deed is done. I think he would rather starve to death. Some puppies outgrown it, hopefully yours will. If not, maybe the meat tenderizer or Forbid might work for him. You might also try dousing the stool with something really nasty like Bitter Apple or hot sauce and letting him have a taste of that.

by Calamity on 07 November 2004 - 07:11

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Hello, very interesting question that I have heard a number of times. Some reasons that I have heard for this are: They are lacking in a vitamin or mineral and they feel eating their own stools satisfies this (we, well most women I know, feel the need to eat chocolate when lacking in Iron). Their faecies are still high in undigested goodies. Giving it some thought, my bitches feel the need to clean up after them selves around whelping time and when they have pups if they have an accident and I am not quick enough to pick it up. Pure clenliness in the maternal state. They do not bother about it when not in a maternal state. I class this behaviour as normal. You could also try keeping a fresh source of bones up to the pup, keep the pups mind on chewing bones instead of its faecies. Hope this helps some. Would be interested in knowing others thoughts.

by GSDLVR on 07 November 2004 - 07:11

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Go to http//:www.solidgoldhealth.com . Purchase some S.E.P. ("Stop Eating Poop") . Product Description: The active ingredient in S.E.P. is Glutamic Acid. When Glutamic Acid is mixed with the stomach acids, the stool becomes bitter to the taste, which deters the dog from eating the stool. Ingredients: Dicalcium Phosphate | Rice Flour | Glutamic Acid | Peppermint | Yucca Schidigera Extract | Beef Liver | Oil of Parsley | Natural Flavoring |

by SGBH on 07 November 2004 - 07:11

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When I lived in Germany, a friend had me give my puppy Limburger cheese(about a 1/4 lb), once a week for 5 weeks. It has always worked for me. They learn to leave that stinky stuff alone!

by Blitzen on 07 November 2004 - 08:11

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LOL, hard to believe anthing could smell worse than the stool itself, isn't it?

by Klossbruhe on 07 November 2004 - 10:11

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It's called coprophagia. The literature suggests that somewhere between 15 & 20% of all dogs are coprophagic, i.e. they eat their stools. Many theories have been advanced but no one is certain what causes it. Almost everyone seems to have a remedy for it, but if you have talked to owners of coprophagic dogs--a few of the people above so responded--they will tell you that none of these remedies works. I had a friend who sold Owen Mandeville dog food and he used to make fun of my dog because he did this and told me if he ate a wonderful food such as his which was 100% bio-available this would stop at once. Wrong. The only thing that works is to pick up right after your dog and to see that he never gets the chance to eat them. Many animals in the wild will eat feces from other animals such as goose droppings and some animal researchers believed these feces provided bio-available nutrition not previously digested by the first animal. There is no conclusive proof for this theory as well. The only theory I have seen to which studies have shown some, but not conclusive, relation is the cleanliness of the mother. The mother is supposed to eat the feces of her young. It is postulated that when she does not, her pups become coprophagic. As I said some studies done on this support the theory, others do not.

by Calamity on 07 November 2004 - 13:11

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Not that dogs are remotely the same but it could be interesting to note that rabbits have to eat a varly large percentage of their own faecies or they die. This is because they do not get enough vitamins/minerals in the first digestion.

by marion on 07 November 2004 - 15:11

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I believe that Klossbruhe says what it really is, and that it is still not proven why. On the other hand, Blitzen laughs, thinking there is no worst smell as the stool itself. Well, this could be to us humans, but what about the dogs? I personally love Limburger cheese, but it does have a very strong smell ;-) Best regards.

by Diane on 07 November 2004 - 17:11

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Is the dog eating kibble? I've never seen a dog on a raw diet eat stool. Has anyone? I read a recommendation on another list where someone suggested adding Solid Gold canned Green Tripe to the food and that seemed to have the most success. Talk about things that smell bad, though...tripe is some pretty awful stuff...yuck!

by Klossbruhe on 07 November 2004 - 19:11

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Diane, In answer to your question has anyone ever seen or had a dog which ate its own stools that was on a raw diet, the answer is yes. I have. Not only my own dog, but also 2 others in a kennel where I worked. My dog was on Carnique, the others were on raw chicken, beef bones and pureed vegetables.

by Blitzen on 07 November 2004 - 20:11

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I'm convinced; some dogs do it just because they can and nothing is going to stop them.

by Diane on 07 November 2004 - 20:11

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Klossbruhe, Well, there goes another myth down the drain! I think Blitzen is probably right...so you just have to be sure they "can't".

by Dacotah on 08 November 2004 - 00:11

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Blitzen, your first post was too funny, I am still laughing! Anyway, my older dog Dacotah has ALWAYS been a poop eater, I have tried everything.... He will even go and eat the other dog's poop as well. He also eats dirt. The new pup Ashton sniffs it after he goes, then runs away from it, LOL.

by Blitzen on 08 November 2004 - 05:11

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Ashton is my kind of dog. After having a number of stool eaters over the years, it's a big plus to me to have one that runs in the opposite direction after he's finished. In fact, I would select against stool eating if I were a breeder LOL.

by Kovey on 08 November 2004 - 18:11

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I feed raw food and I have on a few occasions seen my dogs eat their stool. I live on a farm and my dogs also occasionally eat horse poop as well. If I see this, I ususally add some yogert to their diet to help get them replentish benificial bacteria in their GI tract. My interpretation of stool eating relates to an imbalance of bacteria in the GI tract. Each time I have noted my dogs eating their stool it has been shortlived and never became a habit. I have also not experienced any health problems related to stool eating.

by Het on 10 November 2004 - 04:11

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anytime that I have a dog eating their or others stool I start adding v-8 juice to thier food, the tomatoes will become very acidy in the poop and this has worked for most of the dogs to get them to stop. Good luck.

by Charisma on 10 November 2004 - 15:11

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I was told by my vet that it could have something to do with a lack of enzymes shepherds are prone to juvenile pancreatis, this can be out grown, the undigested protein in the stool is what they are after.. Go get a blood test, just in case.. You would then have to change to a,low fat diet wich is low in protein... I know a friend used curry powder with excellent results!!!

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