Main > R.I.P. Rin Tin Tin (98 replies)
by sueincc on 23 June 2007 - 18:46
Absoloutly none, but I'm not saying they do, nor do I expect any one else to.
by policemom on 23 June 2007 - 18:51
Sunsilver no use in addressing her. I only posted that particular link because I saw that this dog passed away less than two weeks ago. I didn't know that, nor did I even know how many RTTs there had been since. The link was for information purposes only. Thank you for posting it in the other post. I enjoyed reading it and learning about a dog I worshipped as a child. It's nice to see some of the positive work being done by this kennel, especially the therapy work with children.
by Ceph on 23 June 2007 - 19:59
Thank's for the info Policemom - I thought it was actually very interesting. I didnt even know there was a website or that there had been Rin Tin Tin's born since either...though I have seen a few...I thought it was just a general name people tacked on...not a kennel name...I kind of missed the Rin Tin Tin era - I'm a little young...but he was one of the dogs I heard the most about as a child despite that.
I didnt think the dogs looked that bad personally - they werent over angulated, they werent roached and its nice to see someone who doesnt care about color since that is a very mild concern in my opinion....lol...quite a bit pricey in my opinion but still - lot of interesting things on the site.
Thanks for posting :)
by Do right and fear no one on 23 June 2007 - 20:28
Rin Tin Tin (more correctly, Rin Tin Tin II, which was the most used and most famous of the several Rinty's that appeared in movies and TV shows), was "my dog" in my childhood, even if only in my imagination. I don't care if he was a fear biter, had HD or his ears had to be taped. He was "my dog" and I will always remember him just as some will always remember Elvis Presley, Marilyn Monroe of JFK, who all had faults. I would be proud to have progeny from Rinty's line, even if just for a pet. I have researched it and found several American Show champions that are descendants of Rin Tin Tin II. The names are below. I do not know if the orwers of these dogs even know they come from Rinty's line, but I have put in a lot of time tracing it and they are from Rinty's line. The owners of Rinty's "official" lineage advertise that they are the only place to get descendants from , and they require spaying and neutering to maintain their monopoly of the "line", but it is not the only ongoing line from Rin Tin Tin II. If you don't care about Rinty, fine. Have a good day. If you do care about Rinty, then here is a little tidbit. I have an 8 x 10 photo of Rinty hanging here in my office. Just cause I want to.
Descendants from Rin Tin Tin II:
Ch. Ken-Delaine's Buddie v Fran-Jo
AM SEL CH Lochwood's Sundance v Stuttgart
AM GV CH Rio Valles Nestles Crunch
Below is the PDB page for Rin Tin Tin:
by sueincc on 23 June 2007 - 20:47
The dog that died was NOT Rin Tin Tin & the dog that died's sole claim to fame is he sired a bunch of other puppies, & sat in a parade so I think it's ridiculous & silly for the owners to have a press release entitled "The Nation Mourns the Loss of Rin Tin Tin". Just another way to get attention & try to snag more $$ for the pups. Ask them why they charge so much for their dogs & they'll tell you, "Why it's because they are the descendants of Rin Tin Tin". Oh no, nothing commercial about that press release at all. riiiiiiiiiight wanna buy a bridge???????????
by policemom on 23 June 2007 - 21:24
Do Right is it a real original photo? Would love to see it.
by Ceph on 23 June 2007 - 21:52
I would love to see it too :)
If you dont like the dogs or the practices of the breeders than dont by them...its about that simple...but some of us find this interesting and actually like this topic of conversation.
by policemom on 23 June 2007 - 22:01
I think Rin Tin Tin really promoted to this country what a German Shepherd could and should be to those of us who watched him as children. I know that's when I fell in love with GSDs. Many many children fell in love with that dog, and the impression he made on us contributed to the way we feel today as adults about our GSDs. I wonder how many here feel that they were influenced to own GSDs from this one dog? I think collie people probably feel the same way about Lassie. And Do Right....he wasn't YOUR dog he was MY dog lol.
by Rezkat5 on 23 June 2007 - 22:51
I rather enjoyed looking at those old pedigrees. A bunch of HGH titles seen in those dogs!
by MI_GSD on 23 June 2007 - 23:14
I don't think anyone's arguing the fact that Rin Tin Tin has a very interesting story behind him or that we all adored him as kids. The problem (for me anyway) is the way the whole operation is being touted as the best thing going in GSD breeding. Sure they donate dogs but so do other breeders. They just don't shout it out in big red letters on their websites. Yes they have a spay/neuter contract but how many other breeders do the same? I saw mentioned that Rin Tin Tin was 4 generations removed from Horand. Hello? I think we can all pretty much say the same thing about our own dog's ancestors. I also noticed that everyone ignored the fact that only a few of their breeding dogs could be found on the OFA registery. So I guess my point is, love the memory of Rin Tin Tin but don't try to convince me that their dogs are any better than any other dog I could buy out of the newspaper.
by Ceph on 23 June 2007 - 23:16
Does OVC have a registry? That was the other group they were being done at...I looked for one but couldnt find a registry on their site...alot of their dogs seem to be done there.
I dont think anyone was saying they were any better. But the history and story sure is neat.
by Sunsilver on 24 June 2007 - 00:36
Yes, Ontario Veterinary College certifies hips. I don't know if their registry is public or not. The Hoofprint dogs are from Ontario, and that's why the hips for that part of the lineage are OVC certified rather than OFA.
by sueincc on 24 June 2007 - 01:24
The implication being the dogs have been certified by one organization or another. No, OVC's registry is not public. If the dogs hips have been certifed by OVC, then that's what it should say. Instead on every page they show "breeding stock" they proudly state next to the dogs' name "OFA". They even state that all their breeding dogs have hips certiifed by OFA if they are over 2 years of age. Does that mean they are breeding dogs under two?
by angusmom on 24 June 2007 - 02:04
i guess i'd like to mourn the memory of Rin Tin Tin and the less complicated era he symbolized. i miss the days when it seemed easier to determine what was "right" and having a good dog was part of that. i grew up with Rinty and the Littlest Hobo and other gsds and they always seemed to represent things that were good and healthy and "on the up and up". so, maybe this latest rinty isn't necessarily the "real thing", but he did represent an era that's gone, a simpler time that some of us lived thru and wish was still here, sometimes. damn, he just represented a very cool dog. sorry to see him go. jmo...
by von symphoni on 24 June 2007 - 02:24
I liked Rin tin tin. I like shows that I dont have to worry about if my children are going to repeat something in them. I like shows that value character and personal integrity. Too bad some angry ignorance ruined he post. Didn't need to be that way.
by Ceph on 24 June 2007 - 02:42
Actually, they state that their dogs will be OVC or OFA rated before they are bred...not just OFA'd (OVC at 18 months I think, OFA at 24) They do state OVC on their website next to some of the dogs names...and especially on the pedigrees. I had never heard of OVC before I looked at their site.
Angusmom - I thought that was a great post...and very true.
by sueincc on 24 June 2007 - 03:01
Cate: Look at the top of the page for their breeding females & males, also look at what is written next to each dogs name - OFA. Only the first dog on breeding males page mentions OVC. Here is a link to the breeding females page.
It's the same on the breeding males page, as well as on their previous litters page. Next to each dog are the initials OFA. If you go to the OFA website only 3 of the 7 breeding stock dogs have been screened (prelim and/or certified), and out of that 2 are good & one is fair.
I'm not going to beat this dead horse any longer. I understand the original dog evokes wonderful memories of a bygone era. I also know a marketing ploy when I see one. If someone wants to pay $3,500 for these dogs, well I guess that pretty much speaks for itself.
by Sunsilver on 24 June 2007 - 03:10
Puppies have arrived! A litter of 10, 7 males and 3 females was whelped today: http://www.rintintin.com/TiaLitter.html
(Waits for inevitable snarky comments...)
by Shepherd Woman on 24 June 2007 - 03:12
LOL, don't listen to them Sunsilver! I have found that just about every time I post something, someone has something negative to say about it! Getting use to it, lol. Some people wake up on the wrong side of the bed every morning!
by animules on 24 June 2007 - 03:27
sueincc, I followed what you were trying to say. Marketing can do funny things to people can't it......