Main > Home Remedies for Demodectic Mange (20 replies)

by firefly on 01 June 2007 - 17:06

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The pup has already  been seen by the vet , but I would like to know if some of you breeders out there have their own home remedy for it. Thanks!

by yellowrose of Texas on 01 June 2007 - 18:06

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Ivemec and Lyme dip and lots of vit c and fish oil, preferrably wild salmon oil, keep cool, clean and I would await anyones holistic recipes...I have a customer that claims she has one but she would never email it to me   , guess she doesnt want me to know it.........and the best dog food and raw meat by the bucket load.....as little kibble as possible, with a whole brown egg a day, added to food   do all this gradually to the diet till the dog gets use to it.........

by ziegenfarm on 01 June 2007 - 18:06

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we've had very good luck with a product called nu-stock.  cures red mange, heals hot spots, ring worm, ear mites, etc.

on the web at nustock.com

or call 1 877 5nustock

i bought 2 jars on ebay and will continue to keep it on hand.  it's good stuff.  really works and smells absolutely awful!!!!! :)

pjp

by GShepherdess on 01 June 2007 - 19:06

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Flowers of Sulfur, or Sulfur Sublimed Powder manufactured by Humco, available at pharmacies, less than $3.   I once used this on a stray dog with obvious mange, and cured him.   It WORKS! Also, my mom has used the Nustock for hotspots, and says it works.  We found it at a feed store. 

by yellowrose of Texas on 01 June 2007 - 20:06

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Thats what Lyme dip is   Order from Revivalanimal.com emulsified suldur and it stinks    wear gloves

by GSD2727 on 01 June 2007 - 20:06

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The whole problem with Demodex is the dog has a poor immune system.  All dogs carry the mites, but dogs with a good immune system keep them to a minimum and under control.  When a dogs immune system suffers, the mites can take over and become a problem.  Dips and chemicals may work to kill the mites BUT the also kill the immune system (the actual problem!) even more!  So they will make "what you see" go away, the symptoms, but only make the REAL problem worse.

 We had a dog here with demodex once... we put her on a good all natural raw diet, gave her vit C and other immune boosting herbs, and it easily cleard up on her own!  I would not use the dips/chemicals for this.  I also would not give any chemicals on the dog - meaning no frontline or other flea preventative like that, no vaccinations, etc...

 There is info out there on the net about treating it naturally if you look it up on a search.

Good luck!
Val

by firefly on 01 June 2007 - 22:06

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Thanks everybody for the great ideas. Should I still continue the vet treatment or will natural treatments be enough? I would like to keep it natural. 

by Bob-O on 01 June 2007 - 22:06

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May I suggest fresh lemon juice applied with a cotton swab? It dries the areas and provides certain nutrients that the skin needs during this time.

Regards,

Bob-O

by yellowrose of Texas on 01 June 2007 - 23:06

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I would do the natural because Val is right as I stated in my prior thread  vit c and raw meat diet...plenty of it and shampoo with  (don't laugth)  Head n shoulders..shampoo and then do what Bob-o suggested  lemons in your tea provide y antitoxidents also....mint also  in the tea not on the dog,,,,cook potatoes and carrots slightly in chicken brothe with cabbage ,,doggie soup and feed daily....Much better and also the salmon oil, just a tiny bit and olive oil , extra virgin and then give him yogurt three or fourtimes a week to put good bacteria into his system......all german lines tend to get stressed at puppy time to graduate to a teenager and if a weaker one has a limited immune this mite goes to work......I also use garllic powder on food each day, just a dusting over top and mix ....much better thatn all the killer chemicals in commercial dog foods.......a pet tab at this time indogs life wouldnt hurt or better than that  Red Cell for Dogs is great......use as directed....do all of this little bit at a time as to not upset system , introduce a little bit at a time    Note: using the chemicals will sometimes make a male pup end up with no sperm count.....cant think of what uy call it  my brain is on pause....better stop now....sterile?

by MelissaAP on 16 June 2007 - 16:06

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We have an Australian shepherd pup who was developing a case of red mange. We tried the ointment from the vet with some positive results in small areas of face but it wasn't possible to doctor the whole outside of the pup.  Aussies can't tolerate Ivermectin so that wasn't an option. We bought a 30 day supply of Interceptor which is a non-ivermectin heart worm medication. We will continue to give this to see the results.

HOWEVER

My husband searched on line because seeing his puppy's misery was breaking his heart. He found an old fashioned treatment...very easy, non toxic and seems to be working wonders.

1.    1 part 1% peroxide

(bottled peroxide is generally 3% so in order to get it to 1% we cut in half with water-say half cup peroxide with half cup water and then add the cup of water. This should yield 1.5% peroxide and since the dog will be wet it will be further diluted)

2.    1 part water

3.    as much borax (Old fashioned laundry detergent 20 mule power Borax available in grocery stores and Wal-marts) as will dissolve in the solution.

wash dog so coat is wet

rinse with the solution- as you would a flea dip

don't dry dog..allow solution to dry on coat

 

The theory is this-the peroxide helps to open the pores and hair follicles to allow the borax in and then the borax kills off the demodex mites.

 

We have only been using this for 24 hours and have seen a HUGE improvement in our pup. We bathed his full body yesterday am and then sponged the bad spots on his head last night. He slept through the night without crying for the first time in over a week. This morning he is bright eyed, playful and full of energy. We will sponge the sores on his head again tonight and give him another full body wash tomorrow to prevent it from spreading to other parts of his body.

Good luck to all

by MelissaAP on 16 June 2007 - 17:06

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We have an Australian shepherd pup who was developing a case of red mange. We tried the ointment from the vet with some positive results in small areas of face but it wasn't possible to doctor the whole outside of the pup.  Aussies can't tolerate Ivermectin so that wasn't an option. We bought a 30 day supply of Interceptor which is a non-ivermectin heart worm medication. We will continue to give this to see the results.

HOWEVER

My husband searched on line because seeing his puppy's misery was breaking his heart. He found an old fashioned treatment...very easy, non toxic and seems to be working wonders.

1.    1 part 1% peroxide

(bottled peroxide is generally 3% so in order to get it to 1% we cut in half with water-say half cup peroxide with half cup water and then add the cup of water. This should yield 1.5% peroxide and since the dog will be wet it will be further diluted)

2.    1 part water

3.    as much borax (Old fashioned laundry detergent 20 mule power Borax available in grocery stores and Wal-marts) as will dissolve in the solution.

wash dog so coat is wet

rinse with the solution- as you would a flea dip

don't dry dog..allow solution to dry on coat

 

The theory is this-the peroxide helps to open the pores and hair follicles to allow the borax in and then the borax kills off the demodex mites.

 

We have only been using this for 24 hours and have seen a HUGE improvement in our pup. We bathed his full body yesterday am and then sponged the bad spots on his head last night. He slept through the night without crying for the first time in over a week. This morning he is bright eyed, playful and full of energy. We will sponge the sores on his head again tonight and give him another full body wash tomorrow to prevent it from spreading to other parts of his body.

Good luck to all

by Janette on 16 June 2007 - 17:06

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How old is the pup?  Where are the problem areas located?

by VonIsengard on 16 June 2007 - 21:06

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I've never taken a dog to the vet for demodex, ivomec works just fine for me.

by agemenon on 16 June 2007 - 21:06

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you can use echinacea to boost the immune system you can get form  health shops it does work  hope your gets on the top soon

by MelissaAP on 16 June 2007 - 23:06

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the pup is now about 14 weeks old. Problem areas first appeared around lips. muzzle and eyes but then spread to open wounds on the top of the head. There are certain breeds who can not tolerate Ivermectin...any of the collie/shepherd types

by Peggie on 18 August 2008 - 04:08

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Thank you all for your ideas.  I found a stray in a back alley near my home.  I took him, Ruff, for his first set of shots and the vet said he had sarcoptic mange/scabies.  Actually she said he had signs of it.  Ruff really smelled badly.  I had purchased Revolution for him and my house dog since I'd allowed them to meet.

In the last week he did seem to be getting better but it's flaired up again.  I don't know if it's because I put Happy Jack's mange medicine on him causing irratation or the chemicals causing it.  He cries so while digging that when I bathe him, blood runs down the drain as well.

I have used medicated powder trying to help.  When he is asleep and cool is the only time he is not in misery.  We use to treat our pets with motor oil years ago but that's dangerous too.  My dogs want to play together and can't understand why I'm keeping them apart.

I also treated my yard but the grass should have been dried by the time I let him back onto it.  I just don't know and can't afford to keep going to the vet.  I spent $106 just last Friday.

If anyone has any suggestions for me I surely could use them.  I prefer natural remedies if possible.  Ruff, is 15 wks old and weighed 18lbs a week ago.  He needs your help.

Thanks in advance.

by dogshome9 on 18 August 2008 - 09:08

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Revolution should do the job alone, 2 applications and it will be gone.

by kitkat3478 on 18 August 2008 - 13:08

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I have used the NuStock also on a couple of baby foxes I found,that with a shot of Ivermec worked great. The NuStock is one of the best things I've found for hot spots,and flies on the ears.The cost is minimul compared to results.

by 1doggie2 on 18 August 2008 - 21:08

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This is the best thing I have ever found, I have seen quite a few dogs cleared up with all kinds of skin and coat issues and mange. I also have a breeder friend who give this to her females after weaning the pups it brings the coats back wonderful. Best thing it is all under $20.00. It works slow, first you are not sure if your seeing improvement, then you notice the improvement, then WOW! I get it from Mothers Market, a Natural market with vitiamins.

sulfur D6 (i tablet 3x a day)
                       silicea D12 (1 tablet 2x a day)

                        biotin tablets 1 a day

 

by Blitzen on 19 August 2008 - 00:08

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Sarcoptic mange, scabies, is not the same thing as red mange, demodectic mange. Sarcoptic is much easier to deal with, a few dips or a few shots of ivermectin and it's gone. Once the scabies mites fall off the host animal they dry up and die fairly quickly so it's probably not necessary to treat the environment, but it can't hurt. Scabies will also get on humans, bite them where their clothing fits the tightest and fall off looking for a dog. If you've even been bitten by a scabie you will have a whole new appreciation for the word "itch". It is truly the most intense itch you will ever experience. The good news is, in a few days it goes away. The bad new is it's highly contagious to other dogs and can be very difficult to find in a scraping.

Demodex, as others have already said, is the result of a compromised immune system.  Demodex is not contagious one dog to the other, all dogs have demodectic mites on their bodies. (So do we, the human variety - ugh!!) Any time a dog is stressed or ill, it can develop lesions caused by demodex.  There are 2 varieties of demodex, the localized type where only a few areas are effected, generally around the eyes and on the muzzle, and the more serious type, generalized. Every case of generalized begins as localized, so there is always that concern.  Before ivermectin generalized demodex was often a death sentence.  It took months and months to cure dogs with generalized and some never did recover and were put down. Most dogs with generalized also develop secondary bacterial infections and that is what causes the itching and odor, not the mange mites. BTW, bitches that have produced the generalized type in their progeny, should probably not be bred again.

Years ago farmers and hunters used motor oil to cure red mange. That was in the days when motor oil contained sulfur; some here have said that sulfur is a good home remedy and I believe it would work. However, don't use today's motor oil, no sulfur anymore and you'll just end up with a very, very messy dog .

 


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