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by vk4gsd on 25 March 2017 - 07:03

The trend will last as long as the puppies sell.

 

No different to dark sables, kings, ski slope backs, roach backs, shilos, blues, whites, livers, pandas....

 

Nothing new, funny how people that have normalised all the other abberations get so cut about it.

 

My guess is once so many puppies are sold it just becomes a new sub genre like all the rest.


Baerenfangs Erbe

by Baerenfangs Erbe on 25 March 2017 - 16:03

You can't stop it. It's a world away and they will sell just like all the other crap dogs in the US sell.

Frickin Pandas... blue and livers have a huge market. It drives me nuts.

One thing I have learned is that you catch more people by showing off your solid dogs rather than trying to educate online. When people see a good and solid example of the German Shepherd dog they are surprised, which is rather sad.

For example, we were asked to hold a representation at a local festival and we purposely chose to show off some bitework and then have our kids immediately interact with the dogs afterwards and led the dogs into the crowds to be petted.

We made it a point to stress good genetics and training makes a dog like this safe and not a menace to society (against popular believe).

It's the very same thing with prong and e collars. You convert people by showing them, on themselves, how these tools work and that they don't inflict pain. They have to feel it to believe it.

The same goes with any dog breed. You have to show people. They have to see it with their own eyes. Especially if they are on the other side of the fence.


Hundmutter

by Hundmutter on 25 March 2017 - 20:03

So good luck to those in China who continue to buy, show & breed 'proper' GSDs without the extras. If the histories of all the other aberations are any guide, the breed is going to be stuck with a small proportion of 'mastiff headed' specimens for the forseeable future, then ? ? ?
Since how many years ago did the Pandas appear ? And the Shilohs ?  Still happening. And, as you said BE, there is a huge & continuing market for dilute colours. Well, we all just may as well stop worrying about things like how horrid mastiff heads are and accept them as a 'done deal'.  VK - is this our fault, then, ...or just bowing to the inevitable ? Especially in a world so influenced by the ideal of people having 'free expression' with everything.
Personaly I'm not 'normalising' anything; but I think I must be in a minority of about 1.5 people, if you are right (including all in the SV !).

And I think BE is quite right, as far as it goes; keep surprising the ill-informed and fashion-influenced with good 'real' dogs (in all their variety) and we can at least educate a little bit. But it looks like a lost cause where nobody is prepared / able to put on any authoritative united front to persuade breeders worldwide of what they should not be doing.


by vk4gsd on 25 March 2017 - 20:03

The gsd commodity is like all other modern consumer products.

The "shelves" are now full of 50 different increasingly more personalised versions of the same item.

Consumers no longer will be told what's good for them by old orgs.

If you are an old org thinker you are on the wrong side of history.

Just look at how things are produced these days, custom, made, micro,-brewed, boutique, designed by the buyer, bought on line, individually 3D printed.....

Its the way it is.

Baerenfangs Erbe

by Baerenfangs Erbe on 25 March 2017 - 22:03

I am following one of those groups on Facebook. Every day they are pumping out poorly bred dogs. Tons of scammers too. People are warned every day to do their research and every day, those do the warning, get bashed by the crowd because they "just want to sell their cute puppies".
Then at least three times a week you see someone complaining they got scammed out of their money...

It is a never ending cycle. I'm done educating...

Same thing goes with my shop. Every week we've got at least one or two poorly bred reactive/aggressive Shepherds walk through the door and when I ask where they got the dog from, its almost always from the same local breeder because "they didn't want to spend more than they pay for rent on a dog." and then ask if we can train their dog to be a protection dog, since the dog is already so protective of them.

5 - 7 month old dogs that you can't even turn your back on because they'll bite you. And oblivious owners that have no clue how dangerously fear aggressive their dog is because "It's being protective". And then they see ours and are like "This is what we wanted."

 

Well... maybe you should have spent a little more time doing research and spent those extra 600 bucks and you would have gotten that.






 


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