Dutch Shepherd or Mal - Page 1

I am still dumbfounded on why a malinois (which I do like)  are so much more popular then a dutch in the Police/Military world. Can anyone please explain to me as to why that has experience as a handler. I have trained many mals and gsd, but not many dutches. I recently trained a 18 month old dutch and it was by far the easiest dog I have ever trained he was spot on with a very nice solid full bite and very stable. I think he had just as much spunk as a mal but had an off switch like a gsd. Please dont think I am down grading a gsd or mali. I love all three of the breeds, but just would like input from a handler that has experience with both in real life operations.

1   there are much  more  working line   Malinois than Dutch shepherds in the world.

2 Most of the K9  dutch shepherds LE  police/military  are  X cross breed malinois/dutch shepherd in a litter can be 5  mali and 4

dutch  shepherd brindle- color  but there much more  litters mali X mali  than mali x D-S    or  DS X DS

 

3  There are very good  malis, dutchies and  also  GSD  a good dog is a good dog.

I appreciate your input. I new they were more available just the dutches that I have seen and worked with did so very well. Again Thanks

I have owned many D-S  even here in Holland D-S  the roots  is for many people a   D-S unknown breed  

this breed is never been in the spot lights.

You can,t compare  GSD  breeders  with D-S   breeders  in numbers

 

Dutch police/military  have many  LE- K9    X cross mali/dutchies  but a  GSD is a  rare  find  today here  in Holland as a patrol- LE  service dog.

 

I would say that the DS "unpopularity" may be the breed's saving grace.      I have had a couple of Mals and a Tervuren, and some day wish to have a DS - I find them very interesting.

I have seen several litters where the fawn pups are sold as mali and the brindles sold as dutchies. Unless you buy an FCI Dutch or registered mal they are the same breed from the same litter differ only by coat colour.

 

the working crowd I know simply don't buy FCI Dutchie, the dogs they buy are simply dogs from lines not breeds of dog per se.

difficult concept huh, same litter two distinct "breeds".

'Same litter, two distinct breeds'....nothing difficult about the concept at all. Norwitch/Norfolk terriers; Smooth Fox Terrier/ Wire Fox Terrier started out as varieties and are now registered as different breeds..not allowed to interbreed anymore. The Rough Collie/Smooth Collie are still varieties, same as the Belgian Sheepdogs used to be ( Tervueren, Lakenois, Malinois, Groendahl ). Irish Setter and Red and white Setter used to be the same breed. The Standard Bull Terrier and Mini Bull Terrier are now separate breeds but used to be a single breed.

 

Its impossible  out   FCI  registered and DNA  yellow/orange Malis   get  2 differerent colors brindle  and  yellow/orange dogs

same out of  FCI / DNA  registered  brindle dogs . Only if breeders faking the pedigrees  with other dogs you can 

get both  different type., I have seen this only in KNPV  litters they are often mixed but this are not FCI registered dogs and they don,t care about the colors.

 

Orginal  Malinois and Dutch shepherds are the same breed they come from the same district Belgium and Holland -Brabant

but they split the  brindle  and the  yellow/orange  dogs apart in  +/-, 1900

 Groenendaeler, Tervuerense and  Laekense herder  are  also family

 The black malinois  color comes original from the Groenendaeler. but the color black  is a unrecogniced color  FCI   malinois

 

 

Dutch  police with a  Black Malinois and a dutch shepherd background  in The Hague  this  week.

 

 

 

 

Thats like full riot gear lol...Is that how they walk around at all times