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Timper vom Mühlengrund - Searching for Ancastor
by OfGlorysCastle on 31 December 2007 - 22:12
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I' am searching for the ancestors from "Timper's grandmothers"

Gussy von Gottswinden

Angie von Akasha, Reg. WRK 17907-17-94

Any Information is helpful.

Email: OfGlorysCastle@aol.com


Timper vom Mühlengrund - Searching for Ancastor
by CALARYN on 02 January 2008 - 16:01
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Hi Andy,

This is Carolyn from www.yorkshireterriersofcalaryn.com

I have a girl sired by Timper.  I have also been searching for the grandmothers you are looking for.  If you find them, let me know and I'll do the same.  I have attached the pedigree that I have, but those same dogs are missing from my information as well. 

Liza M. just emailed me asking.  Is she asking this for you?

Happy New Year,

Carolyn


Timper vom Mühlengrund - Searching for Ancestor
by OfGlorysCastle on 02 January 2008 - 21:01
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Hello Carolyn,

thank you for the quick answer. I had ask Heike (littleangels) if she know something about Timpers grandmothers. I think that Heike than ask her friend Lisa. There are some mistakes in the pedigree that you have post from Timper. I will put the pedigree from Timpers full sister "Tina vom Mühlengrund" in this pedigree database. So you can look at the following ancestors that i have from her. Maybe this can help you.
 


Timper vom Mühlengrund - Searching for Ancastor
by CALARYN on 03 January 2008 - 05:01
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Thank you Andy.

 

If there are mistakes, I want to correct them.  In my research I have seen many mistakes in pedigrees,  Sometimes it is only i the spelling of the names and other times it is identifying the wrong  sire or dam, and such.  It can be very maddening.  How do we know what records to accept and what records to ignore?  I am working very hard, as I know you are,  to make the pedigrees accurate.

 

Many Greetings,

Carolyn


Timper vom Mühlengrund - Searching for Ancastor
by OfGlorysCastle on 03 January 2008 - 06:01
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Carolyn,

I know, there are many mistakes in the pedigrees. Sometimes you need more than one pedigree to find the correct writing of a dog name, birthdate, reg.-nr. or parents. I check every pedigree that i find with the biewers in my database to find the correct  information (i hope so). I'am glad, that now we here have a place to share our information to find the correct lines of our biewers. That's for myself is very important.

In the pedigree of Timper is the following not correct:

Bonny von Gottswinden is not the mother, she is the doughter from Gussy von Gottswinden

The mother from Angie von Akasha is Ailine von Akasha

And in my database i have Dinie von Friedheck as the mother from Diavoletto Bianco von Friedheck

Many Greetings

Andy


Timper vom Mühlengrund - Searching for Ancastor
by Dare to Dream Biewers on 04 January 2008 - 22:01
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I have in my registrations the Timper's mother is Anica von Akasha. Date of Birth 04/14/1998 this was a WRV registration, so I am curious to know if it is Anika or Anica ??? It is probably is a typo, but which one is correct?


Timper vom Mühlengrund - Searching for Ancastor
by OfGlorysCastle on 05 January 2008 - 03:01
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There are 2 dogs exist from the akasha kennel with the same name.

1. Anica von Aksha, Re.-Nr. WRK 22424/21-98, born 15.05.1998, Parents are Kidu von Langenfels/Jana von Akasha

2. Anika von Akasha, Reg-Nr. ???, born 14.04.1998, Parents are Schneestern von Friedheck/Angie von Akasha

Here i have a pedigree, that show that the second Anika von Akasha as mother from Timper:


Timper vom Mühlengrund - Searching for Ancastor
by OfGlorysCastle on 05 January 2008 - 03:01
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Here is the pedigree:

http://hometown.aol.de/BieweryorkiGlory/Vom+Muehlengrund+Timper.jpg

Timper's original pedigree can clear, who his mother really is.


Timper vom Mühlengrund - Searching for Ancastor
by OfGlorysCastle on 05 January 2008 - 03:01
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Anica von Akasha:

http://hometown.aol.de/BieweryorkiGlory/Anica+von+Akasha.jpg


Timper vom Mühlengrund - Searching for Ancastor
by Dare to Dream Biewers on 05 January 2008 - 06:01
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Andy here is one of my pedigrees that has Anica as the dam of Timper... Now we can see why there is confusion.

 


Timper vom Mühlengrund - Searching for Ancastor
by OfGlorysCastle on 05 January 2008 - 08:01
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Sue, the birth date is the same, so it is the same mother as in the other pedigree. Then only the name is false written.

The right writing is Anika von Akasha, born 14.04.1998.

The other Anica von Akasha is born 15.05.1998, Reg.-Nr. WRK 22424/21-98

A friend of mine (Heike/LittleAngels) has a phone call with the WRK, they told her that there are two different dogs from the Akasha Kennel born in 1998 with the same name (Anica/Anika), both are from different litter and has different parents.


Timper vom Mühlengrund - Searching for Ancastor
by CALARYN on 08 January 2008 - 20:01
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Well that explains why there is so much confusion.  How did they ever name two dogs the same?  Amazing.

Thank you so very much for your help to clarify Timper's pedigree.  We may be having his grand puppies soon and I am so happy to correct the errors on the pedigree. 

Yes, I am happy to have this place to share the pedigrees.  I hope more people post.  I will help wherever I can. 

It's funny.  Liza asked me because Heike asked Liza and I saw you asking here.  And Sue came too.  The world is certainly getting smaller! 

Have fun,

Carolyn


Timper vom Mühlengrund - Searching for Ancastor
by OfGlorysCastle on 09 January 2008 - 00:01
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At time i don't have find a copy of the original pedigree of Timper. No one is willing to share it. The last information i have is that are 3 females born in the Akasha Kennel with the name Anica or Anika.

1. Anica von Akasha, Reg.-Nr. WRK 22424/21-98, born 15.05.1998, Parents are Kidu von Langenfels/Jana von Akasha


2. Anica von Akasha, Reg-Nr. ???, born 14.04.1998, Parents are Schneestern von Friedheck/Angie von Akasha

3. Anika von Akasha, Reg-Nr. ???, born 1999, Parents unknown

It seems, that the 2. Anica is the mother of Timper vom Mühlengrund.

It's a shame that no one of the persons, who really know what's right (because he/she own Timper or one of his Sisters and who have the orig. pedigrees)  is willing to help and clear off the mistakes.

But i am sure, in the future more and more biewer owner  (bredders but especially pet owners) add the pedigrees of their biewers to this database. Thus the mistakes are indicated and can be corrected.


Timper vom Mühlengrund - Searching for Ancastor
by Xtreme Pups on 23 January 2008 - 17:01
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Hello,  I own Tomper and his mother is Anica Von Akasha born 04-14-1998.  Let me know if anyone needs more info about him?  Deb Sidle---www.xtremepups.com


Timper vom Mühlengrund - Searching for Ancastor
by Xtreme Pups on 23 January 2008 - 18:01
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I'm sorry about my spelling, I meant TIMPER.    Deb


Timper vom Mühlengrund - Searching for Ancastor
by OfGlorysCastle on 23 January 2008 - 20:01
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Hello Deb,

thank you for the information.

Greetings Andy







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