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Need Expert Witnesses -GSD Breeders/Trainers (54 replies)
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Believe it or not- I am being sued for alimony.
The opposition maintains that I "am capable" of earning in excess of $70K annually training and breeding GSD's.
It is up to me to prove that their claim is ridiculous in court. The fact that I have no tangible assets, live in a room in someone else's house, and have earnings well below the proverty level apparently isn't enough. The opposition promises to present "expert testimony" in court. Who/what/how that could possibly be, I cannot imagine, but who the hell knows?
This is exactly why women stay in abusive relationships.
My husband has always threatened to do all of this, and more, if I ever left him. The only thing that surprises me is that he could find an attorney, any attorney, to take part in further abuse of the exiting spouse, which is what this all is in my book.
I try SO hard to follow the law, do things "the right way", on the up and up, and all that... Fat lot of good that's done me in this case.
I'm not the matyr "type". Who the hell wants to be a martyr anyway? LOLOL
I guess I just never learned how to fight dirty, took that "turn the other cheeks" stuff too seriously, so everytime I turn around I get blind-sided by the bad guys.
Obviously, no phoenix-variety epiphany in the Holler this week.
Thanks in advance for volunteer expert trainer/breeders. The more experience as a long-time, honest-to-God PRO, the better.
Please e-mail rather than PM- wkgdogs@gmail.com
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| Sorry to hear this Shelley, I don,t understand people. the definition of a expert is a ex is a hasbeen and a spirt is a drip under pressure. |
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Shelley,
I understand the impact of having a pro witness, but the bottom line is your tax returns demonstrating your income. I surmise, they can claim your dog business was on a cash basis, but even that would be difficult for them to prove. The burden of proof then falls on the jerk.
I am not a professional in the dog world or I would volunteer for the role. I wish you well through the manure of divorce. If there is anything else, I would gladly assist.
renee
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how much can you soon to be ex-husband make?
counter sue! |
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.. I thought the husband is fighting for his life in the hospital ?
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So sorry for the crap you have to wade through. I would take that picture of that crappy kitchen he made you live with, and add that as proof of all the $$$$ you sure as hell didn't make. Because no sane woman would put up with that if she had been making money to spend. As a matter of fact, it could be proof of his cruel, demoralizing abuse.
Counter sue the bastard, that's the ticket.
( Ca-ching, ca-ching, that is the sound being heard by the lawyers. )
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| Women do the same to ex-husbands or soon to be exes all the time. That's life. |
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| My sister was sued for alimony over 25 years ago -- she worked and her husband did not -- since that went on so long, the rationale was that she had agreed to the arrangement and he was dependent on her. It depends on the law in the state where this will be decided, but in many instances women who have been the longsuffering principal breadwinners have gotten a really rough deal when it comes time to divorce. This is not right and Shelley I wish you the best. |
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| My sister was sued for alimony over 25 years ago -- she worked and her husband did not -- since that went on so long, the rationale was that she had agreed to the arrangement and he was dependent on her. It depends on the law in the state where this will be decided, but in many instances women who have been the longsuffering principal breadwinners have gotten a really rough deal when it comes time to divorce. This is not right and Shelley I wish you the best. |
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Davren is right, Shelly. Your claimed tax income is what counts. Of course it also would be helpful if you would have your breeding (stud) books with you, or record books for training fees ect. If it was all an on cash basis, and you didnt claim this on any tax paper, then he would have to prove this income first hand like with bank statements.
It doesnt matter if he brings in the president to testify, only hard facts are counting, not the "coudda make that amount".
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What you could do is to claim that because you are forced to move due to abuse.......you will have to create a whole new client base from scratch.....
What stops the sob from getting a job? What is he "able" to do. Put a price on it.....and counter sue. |
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The only expert you need is an expert lawyer.
And send the other SOB a case of his favorite beverage just for fun. |
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Shelley
sent you an email
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Maybe I was premature about the expert witness thing. Just because his attorney says he is producing one for the court who will "testify" the I am "capable" of making lots more than my poor husband has been making for all these years. The answer to my defense came to me, as so many do these days, [insert harp music here] while I was scraping poop off the floor of my friend's nice, LICENSED boarding and training kennel here in Central PA. Its so simple I feel like a complete idiot for not thinking of it a week ago when I was served those stupid papers.
How much one is "capable" of making training and breeding dogs for one's living is irrevelent if one does not have a place to do so... and in PA anyone through whose hand's over a certain number of dogs passes annually (is it 24? Can't rmember) MUST have a licensed kennel.
I haven't even had a litter in about 2.5 yrs., 4 litters in 7 yrs., and one of those "litters" was a single pup. So much for getting rich breeding dogs. I don't think the court is going to ask me to operate a puppy mill so I can pay a guy who makes over $38/hr. as a tenured union carpenter, with benefits to die for (Did I really write that?) ... heart attack or no heart attack. The way his retirement and pension, savings, etc., etc, is set up, if he never works another day in his life, which he very well may not, he'll be better off than he was when he WAS working for the rest of his life. The only year since we've been married that I made anywhere near what he did was when he was laid off and never went down to sign in at the union hall for nearly six months.
He survived, BTW, released last Monday. I hope he's comfortable, but why wouldn't he be... laying in MY bed, surrounded by MY belongings, while he, his attorney, friends & family and who knows who-all else go through drawer after drawer of my files, searching for something to use against me somehow, for something, ANYthing. He's just SURE his kids are telling me his secrets, (no paranoia there) but the truth is everybody in town has an EMS scanner. Its like the local pastime. Small town, not many radio stations. Scandal is the essence of life in coal country. The kids were actually among the last people in town to know, 3rd or 4th hand. So much for keeping it from me. LOLOLOL The only difference it made in my day was having to recharge my cell battery a couple of extra times after listening to all those VM's and returning all those calls. I don't know why he was worried about me finding out. Isn't life support equipment hard-wired into the wall in most hospitals these days?
I have my dogs' registration papers and 2009 dog licenses with me, (not their rabies cert's, damn it) but that's about it. He has everything else. The good news is that I DON'T HAVE any serious skeletons in my closet and the baby would-be ones are really OLD.
Ahhhhhh. I love black humor. Too much Monty Python as a teenager I guess.
T and Xena look mighty comfy on the bed. If I can get T to move a little bit I think I can squeeze in on the side up against the wall.
Some dog trainer, me, eh?
Thanks all.
SS
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Is this a joke? Who in their right mind would want to get meddled up in your business? It sucks you seem to be in dire straights, but when will it end?
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These divorce threads are creeeeepy, it reminds me of a cold case forensic file in the making.
JMO.
I miss the political threads. lol
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Shelley- as you know, I train professionally and occasionally breed. I wish I made 70k a year! I'd be happy to help you any way I can.
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I know an ex who made well into 6 figures. He lost that job, and during the divorce took a job handing out flyers in a grocery store. He kept that job until the divorce was final and the child support set (his ex asked for no alimony, only child support). The amount of child support was based on his paycheck, NOT on his past income or some "fantasy" income of what he could earn. It was based on what he DID earn. So she got, for 2 children, a miniscule amount of money - you couldn't have boarded a dog on it - as his contribution to raising the children. Eventually he took a well-paying job again, and she would've had to hire an attorney to go after him to increase the support (it did not increase automatically). They were in different states and she couldn't afford the attorney, let alone the travel for the fight.
IMO her little family would've been better served by hiring a GOOD lawyer and going after him to get the money they deserved, but that's me. I can understand when kids are involved you don't want to drag on the ugliness. In Shelley's case, though, with no children - GET A GOOD LAWYER.
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| State law varies. In Oklahoma, you can be in PRISON and they will calculate what you would earn at 40 hrs at a minimum wage job to set your child support. That way you can come out of prison owing tons of child support and have the only way out be to go BACK to prison. |
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| DO NOT TAKE THIS ALIMONY THING TO LIGHTLY. I have a girlfriend and the judge told her to get a better job and gave her 60 days. YOU GO IN PREPARED, PERIOD. |
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| I also would not go in with negitives, I would show that you are trying. |
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For all of the Breeders and trainers out there that would be willing.
Put a financial package together for her, boarding, training, puppy sales, and the BILLS. If you can show the amount of puppies sold a few years ago vs.today. Anyone out there stuck with some, had them to long>more food more vet bills. How about some of the kennels closing because of economy. How much land is needed for boarding, how many dogs allowed legally.
send it to her, she is going to need it, no matter what she thinks. If you can get your signature noterized on it.
shelley, get vet updates on the conditon of your dogs, as far as breeding. Print out the rules of the SV, can not breed prior to 2 years of age, needs titles, cost of acquiring. |
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For all of the Breeders and trainers out there that would be willing.
Put a financial package together for her, boarding, training, puppy sales, and the BILLS. If you can show the amount of puppies sold a few years ago vs.today. Anyone out there stuck with some, had them to long>more food more vet bills. How about some of the kennels closing because of economy. How much land is needed for boarding, how many dogs allowed legally.
send it to her, she is going to need it, no matter what she thinks. If you can get your signature noterized on it.
shelley, get vet updates on the conditon of your dogs, as far as breeding. Print out the rules of the SV, can not breed prior to 2 years of age, needs titles, cost of acquiring. |
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This stupid divorce is turning into a full-time job. I am about 5 min. from just throwing the dogs in the van and hitting the road West. Let the lawyers fight it out. You can't squeeze blood from a turnip and I don't plan to live in PA anymore anyway.
I am so pissed off I am resenting having to drive 7 miles to Walmart, to invest money I'd rather spend on groceries or personal hygiene or dog food... for printer ink and copy paper. Insult to injury- I had enough office supplies to last years in my office at home.
Grrrrr....
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as some of the others have already said......your past reported income, your irs filing is key here. he can dream up whatever he wants. if he can't prove that you have ever made that much, he can't sue you on the premise that you ever will. i don't know the details of your situation, but this sounds like a desperate threat on his part to get you to agree or giveup on another matter enterely. men often work this way even if their "bargaining chip" is baseless.
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Actually, it is the Lawyers who start all the SH ** They make the situation much more difficult and much more costly. As you said, you "can't get blood from a turnip." The lawyer will say anything and everything to upset you. |
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| Oh I would be perfect for this job. I've lost about 10k on dogs this year. |
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The outcome of your case will be dependent on state law, a good lawyer, the facts relating to the case - and last but not least, the judge's view of you and your husband when you are on the witness stand.
You need to be in a position to establish that you did not make the income that he claims that you did - which would be done through a combination of income tax returns and your bank statements. To the extent that you had cash income it would have had to be declared for tax purposes - and if it was not then that is another hornet's nest, though if you were filing joint returns your husband would not be keen on making too much of an issue of undeclared income since he also signed the return and and additional taxes, interest and penalties would be a joint and several liability - which means that you are both jointly and individually liable for any amount due. So he would be on the hook as much as you are for the entire amount due.
The other unknown, again depending on state law, is if he claims that you are capable of making much more money than you did but did not do so because you were not interested in doing so, a judge could impute a value to that earning potential.
Finally, your husband's recent MI might strengthen his hand when it comes to claiming that his earning ability has been affected in the future - whereas yours is not.
So, in summary, you need a first rate lawyer who is aggressive and defends your interests. It is possible that the alimony claim is just leverage he is using to get you to drop your claim or settle for less when it comes to other marital property. Also, keep in mind that you have rights to his pension and other retirement benefits - if it is significant then you stand to collect a substantial amount.
Again, you need a good divorce lawyer - frankly, nothing that I say or anyone else on this forum says will substitute for competent legal advice pertaining to your specific situation.
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"they will calculate what you would earn at 40 hrs at a minimum wage job to set your child support."
Right - they're calculating at minimum wage (since prisoners don't even make min. wage). MINIMUM wage. And they base the grant of child support on that MINIMUM wage because once the prisoner is out that's the least he'd be making. The amount was decided based on his minimum wage supermarket job, then the guy went back to a high-paying job similar to what he had before. So he has to pay out to his kids as though he's making $280/week but what he's making is more than $2,000/week. And unless you have the money to go fight for an increase, you're SOL. |
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What keepthefaith wrote is really important and needs to be emphasized:
"So, in summary, you need a first rate lawyer who is aggressive and defends your interests. It is possible that the alimony claim is just leverage he is using to get you to drop your claim or settle for less when it comes to other marital property. Also, keep in mind that you have rights to his pension and other retirement benefits - if it is significant then you stand to collect a substantial amount."
About the pension/retirement thing - depends on how long they were married. At one time in PA you had to be married 15 years to that person to claim pension/retirement benefits.
"Again, you need a good divorce lawyer - frankly, nothing that I say or anyone else on this forum says will substitute for competent legal advice pertaining to your specific situation."
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Hi Shelley, I still have a horse that likes running thru the pucker brush :)
Always,
Cee
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I am not going to give up. The claims are BS and I can prove it. It would be nice if I had my records and documents, but I can do it without those. It'll just take ten times longer.
I just had to spend valuable funds on printer ink and paper. Now I am angry; ready for a fight.
But not nearly as angry as I am going to be when it turns out I took hours and hours of my time, and way to much other other peoples' time, just to present 10x as much proof as I really need in court.
If the batteries go dead on this desk calculator after normal buiness hours in this little rural village I'm REALLY going to be pissed.
Thanks all.
SS
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I have a couple calculators, as well as a printer and computer, downstairs - you are welcome to use them Shelley. I even just put a new ink cartridge in the printer. Of course you will need to get my ass out of this chair to use it - but that can be done - show me some ice cream and I'm outta here and happy away from the computer for a while LOL
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Available Litters
Maybe your hubby see's that your friend in which you are staying is sort-of a higher scale PUPPY-MILL. SIX litters of pups in a couple of months is an awful lot of pups to roll out in a short time.
I'm sure that ALL are spoken for already. I guess that NO MONEY IS BEING MADE THERE EITHER!
Litter due October 2009
Expect beautiful dark sables and bicolors with good bone
and super temperaments, drive and structure.
Maya von den Rabauken
ScH 1
Pedigree
Sire:
SCHH3/V-BSP/WUSV/IP3/FH
V Rocky von den Zingelgärten
HD-fast Normal
Dam:
Bella vom Mühlteich
HD-normal
SG-H'Doc vom Rex Lupus
Schh3 FH KKl-1
Pedigree
Sire:
Sch3 Kkl1
Hannes vom Spadener Holz
HD-SV: HD a-normal (a1)
Dam:
SCH.H2
SG Aika vom kleinen Zigeuner
HD-Normal
Litter due December 2009
Bi-color puppies expected
Queen vom Teufelsgrund
SchH1 Hips A1 normal
Pedigree
Sire:
SchH3 FH SG-BSP
SG Rio von der Maineiche
"a"normal
Dam:
SchH2
Catja vom Bischberggraben
"a"normal
SG-H'Doc vom Rex Lupus
Schh3 FH KKl-1
Pedigree
Sire:
Sch3 Kkl1
Hannes vom Spadener Holz
HD-SV: HD a-normal (a1)
Dam:
SCH.H2
SG Aika vom kleinen Zigeuner
HD-Normal
Litter due August 2009
Sables, excellent prospects for Schutzhund or Police.
V Gabi vom Arolser Holz
SCHH1 Kkl 1
Pedigree
Sire:
SCHH3, IP3, FH2
V Quax vom Michelskirchlein
HD-SV: HD a-normal (a1)
Dam:
Fritzi von der Friesenklippe
V Bandit vom Wolfsheim
SCHH3 FH Kkl 1
Pedigree
Sire:
2XLGA,10XSCHH3
V Vito vom Waldwinkel
HD-SV: HD a-normal
Dam:
SCHH 3
G Noditha vom Teufelsgrund
HD-Normal
PUPPY PHOTOS HERE!
Litter due Early August 2009
Large-boned Dark sables and dark black/tans expected. Awesome working prospects
Laika vom Riemsloherwald
SCH:3 Kkl
Pedigree
Sire:
4X BSP SCH:3
Haribo vom Ebsdorfergrund
HD a-normal (a1)
Dam:
SCHH 3
Panja von den Sennequellen
HD a-normal (a1)
V Bandit vom Wolfsheim
SCHH3 FH Kkl 1
Pedigree
Sire:
2XLGA,10XSCHH3
V Vito vom Waldwinkel
HD-SV: HD a-normal
Dam:
SCHH 3
G Noditha vom Teufelsgrund
HD-Normal
Puppy Photos here!
Litter due Early Novenber 2009
Dark to black sables, and solid blacks expected.
Sequoiah v Gebirghaus
Schh1
Pedigree
Sire:
SCH3(25X),FH2,IPO3,CGC,TDI,HRD
V Eagle vom Eichenluft
Dam:
AKC CGC
Kiyah Vom Enckhausen Cäsch vom Salztalblick
SCHH3 Kkl 1 "a" normal
Pedigree
Sire:
SCHH3, (SG- BSP)
Henrico von den jungen Hansen
Dam:
SCHH 3, FH 2
G Daisy von Mainos
Litter due November 2009
Expecting dark to black sables, and solid blacks
Expecting excellent working prospects.
Puppies with correct conformation and large bone structure.
SG Upsy von der Salztal-Hö |
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Those look like fantastic working litters! Very exciting! And lookie - all titled dogs! How many puppy mills (or let's say - any breeder at all) in the country breed only titled, proven dogs with such fantastic pedigrees??? WOWIE!!!
molly
Eichenluft
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Thanks PETApal for letting me know my last puppy is from one of those God awful puppy mills where the puppies are produced just for the income! So now I am STUCK with Strut vom Eichenluft, BH at 15 months Oct 18, 2009, ready for her schutzhund 1 as soon as she turns 18 mo at the end of December, gorgeous, with fabulous temperament, and who will score higher than my 3 schutzhund 3 males as she does not have a weak phase in the sport. You would think I would be smart enough to demand my money back on this pathetic animal but instead I am going to have a male out of the same female, Queen vom Teufelsgrund, in the near future, DA that I am! Barb Eichman, M.D.
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The term "expected" and the actuality of "whelped" are two very different concepts. I have been here for 3 mos, and I have only smelled one litter of newborn puppy breath.
The only objection I could have to the breedings listed above would be that I don't own them!
But, rest-assured, as soon as I win the lottery, or some stranger knocks on the door to inform me some dead relative has died and left me a kennel property and a lot of money, I WILL have a couple JUST LIKE MOLLY'S.
:-))))
Unless you count the fat, neutered lab that came in for boarding this week, I only see one pendulous belly walking around here at Chez Graf. Unless they are hiding in the attic, or out behind the stock trailer, or maybe in the chicken coop under one of the brood hens, the only puppy I can find here is the Chihuahua puppy trying to climb up on my shoulder with her stuffed squeaky-pig toy.
BTW: I believe there is a waiting list for Eichenfuft pups.
I'm thinking PETapal (whoever you are- I HATE screen names) need not apply.
Hey. Did this thread just get hijacked by someone who is trying to get Molly's goat?
Golly Gee. I think it has.
I'd go downstairs and laugh about it with her, but she's off making yet another contribution to her overhead costs at the Vet's office.
When you "do it right" breeding German Shepherd dogs, on a small scale operation, like she definitely does, and I have always done, you're lucky to break even. If you add the value of your time spent in the process, at, say $5-10. hr., that's when your tax accountant starts counseling you with the fatherly (motherly) advice.
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Yes Shelley someone did hijack your thread but I could not resist my response. My love is training and I have only had FIVE litters myself since I started training nice GSDs in 1970 so I appreciate having someone I can trust to get a nice puppy from occasionally.
Meanwhile your situation sounds more than frustrating. I might have suffered the same experience if I had not pursued my divorce, over 20 years ago, before I finished my degree. Am praying you can get a good resolution for your situation. I will not mention the millions you told me about stashed away in Swiss banks :-) Barb |
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yep, planned does not always mean "whelped". Looks like all excellent breedings to me from someone who has so much passion when it comes ot breeding, boarding, raising, training, titling, rescueing, and just having fun with the dogs.
I am completely jealous of the "farm", complete with horses and sheep, and her boundless energy for making sure every animal on the farm has a great quality of life. |
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Heads up, Shelley....you can do it! The advice of getting a divorce attourney is a very good one, please do so. At the end they know the law and are familiar with the judges and court proceedings. ( or give Divorce Court on TV a call...LOL I am sure they are always up for good stories)
Molly ..... I am glad to hear that I am not the only ice cream junky :) Maybe we should found a support group... hahaha
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Maybe your hubby see's that your friend in which you are staying is sort-of a higher scale PUPPY-MILL. SIX litters of pups in a couple of months is an awful lot of pups to roll out in a short time.
I'm sure that ALL are spoken for already. I guess that NO MONEY IS BEING MADE THERE EITHER
WTH?????
Umm... I know several folks that are making up in the six figure range. If I spend the night with them, does that make me have to pay taxes on THIER income???? Shelly could be staying with a gazillionaire and it wouldn't add to her income one iota. I don't get what you are saying. |
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I've been meaning to start a new thread about my impressions of Chez Graf. LOL
Won't be able to monitor the board like I have at times for awhile, busy with "The Crap" mentioned above.
Everybody try to play nice please.
SS
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( or give Divorce Court on TV a call...LOL I am sure they are always up for good stories)
You know, this was meant as a joke, but honestly, it might pay off to do it! Ya never know! |
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| Just floors me how everyone thinks they can have litters of pups and make money, sit home and drink Sun Tea. Shelley you had a hobby which your husband supported, now you have to take that hobby and turn it into paying employment. |
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Maybe just find another husband to foot the bill for the hobby plus pay the x-husbands alimony ?
LOL
Crazy.
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It all starts with the mission-appropriate space, facility, location.
Uh oh.
Did I forget to mention investment capital? Ha ha ha ha ha.
I actually only own 2.5 dogs. The 1/2 a dog is T. (He's been co-owned since we imported him 4 yrs ago) He also happens to be the only one the SV would consider breeding stock. I had Portia before the marriage. Bijou, now 5 and missing both upper P2's, not OFA cerified (why bother?) could be considered community property. He cost nearly $700.
No change in ownership or transfer of registration has occurred since separation.
I suppose I could try to breed Portia and hope she has a couple 20-whelp litters next year so I can pay alimony.
OR! Hey! I've got it! The ultimate get rich in dogs plan!
Cheepherds? Cheeasheps? Shephuahuas?
OK OK. You're right. Physically impossisble.
But you watch your mouth young lady.
I speak Spanish and I know what you just called me!
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Shelley you are hysterical! I still think it is a major bluff but yes, you have to take it seriously. The question is, do you have faith in your lawyer? You need a freaking fighting tiger in your corner. Have you got the right one? I think he's doing this because he's the one with the most to lose, from what I gather. How long have you been married? That seems to make a difference in regards to what assets he has that you are legally entitled to. Dr. Phil had a show about that today, it is so common for men to beat (mentally) women down with doubts and false fears. I have no doubt when you are finally free of him, you will be the biggest winner and he'll be six feet under in less than a year. Don't remarry quickly because you might be able to collect his SS survivor benefits, divorced or not. Wouldn't that be great!
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* "he'll be six feet under in less than a year." *
How do you know this ? Or if that's the case him having a terminal illness and she's not with him now .. why not just refuse to get a divorce ?
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| Just an intuition BabyE4U, .... stress .... it is a killer. |
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I have been watching this thread with interest. I am an attorney albeit not a divorce attorney so take what I say with a grain of salt. I have a couple bits of advice. 1) get a good attorney and follow through with his/her recommendations and 2) stop posting all this information on a public board.
For the first bit of advice, if you do not feel comfortable with the attorney you have, get another one. Look up his/her AV rating and don't fall for the biggest and flashiest ads. Word of mouth is better than an ad any day. A good attorney is an asset, a bad attorney is worse than no attorney....
For the second bit of advice, I love it when the opposition/Defendant in my cases get online and make comments. Don't make the mistake of thinking that the opposing side will never find these threads. It makes for great impeachment ammunition at trial. Believe me, you might think what you are saying is innocuous but it can be taken and twisted. If your attorney is worth his/her salt they should have told you this. If you need experts and/or other types of witnesses, email individuals privately to inquire.
Good luck and I hope that the outcome in this matter is a positive step in a new direction for you. |
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Psycht, I can't agree with you more. Shelley---- MUMS the word, and light a fire under your lawyers butt or get a better one.
Over and out.
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Shelley,
Listen to Psycht. Number 2 is right on.
Look at PETApal, and the other insert favorite insult here that cropped up on the other thread.
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